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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Pressely is speaking there in support of diverse groups, she's standing up for brown people, for black people, for muslim people, for lgbtq people. It's ridiculous to read that as being a racist remark, or to think she is racist. That's just CP dumb!
    You can call CP whatever you want but to call him dumb is just ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    You can call CP whatever you want but to call him dumb is just ignorant.
    Well maybe not, but if that's the way he wants to play........

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    But now that society at large seems to be picking up on that, it seems to open the door for people to intentionally push the envelope further, no?
    Er, clarify for me so I'm getting this straight - which envelope? I am not clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Er, clarify for me so I'm getting this straight - which envelope? I am not clear.
    Toward exhibiting behavior that might get classified as racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    I held my nose while voting for the man - but he was better than the alternative. Over time, he's been a darn site better than I thought he'd be.
    In the primaries, my favorites were Carly "Look at that Face" Fiorina and "Lyin' Ted" Cruz. I was as venomously anti-Trump as anyone could be. I thought his treatment of many of the other candidates, and his personality in general, were, well, "deplorable." When he was the Last Man Standing, I was left with the choice of voting for him or throwing away my vote, because I would never vote for a creature like Hil. I still remember wrestling internally and praying in line and all the way to the voting booth. One thing that "showed me the light" was the realization that all the "right people" -- the Swamp Rats and the Lamestream Media -- were crapping planet-sized bricks at the idea Bad Orange Man might actually win. I cast my vote and have had zero regrets.


    But the reason I will vote for him again in 2020 is that he has done a decent job with his Court appointments - and I DO NOT want a Democrat, no matter how moderate making any of the probable upcoming appointments. ROE NEEDS TO DIE.
    I've heard of a few clunkers downstream from SCOTUS, but yeah, his appointments have been good.


    There's a lot about Ginsberg that I do respect
    She does a decent job of imitating a live human.


    - but I want her replaced by a conservative. There are two more possibilities - want conservatives - and Trump has thus far delivered.
    If Ginzy does finally exit with Trump as POTUS, the approval process for her replacement will make the Kavanaugh fiasco look like a kids' tea party.


    I used to think one issue voting was a bad thing - and I still have issues with it - but 46 years of killing babies is 46 years too many. Most of the crap law now comes from the Court, not Congress - and it's PAST time the Court cleaned up the mess it has made.
    I've been a single-issue voter for over 35 years. I never vote for a candidate who does not at least pretend to be Pro-Life. I'm annoyed that I have to settle for the "rape and incest" exceptions.


    Honestly, I suspect it's the Court, more than Congress, that has driven me from the Democratic Party - I left before they were quite this nuts.
    Someone really needs to do something to yank some power back from the courts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    One of the squad, Jimmy.

    Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) speaks at Netroots Nation conference on Saturday: "I don't want to bring a chair to an old table. This is the time to shake the table. This is the time to redefine that table. Because if you're going to come to this table, all of you who have aspirations of running for office. If youre not prepared to come to that table and represent that voice, dont come, because we don't need any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. We dont need black faces that don't want to be a black voice. We don't need Muslims that dont want to be a Muslim voice. We dont need queers that don't want to be a queer voice. If youre worried about being marginalized and stereotyped, please don't even show up because we need you to represent that voice."

    This sounds racist but with some odd twists which are hard to discern. If you are brown you have to speak in a certain way or you don't have a brown voice. That is sort of a forced stereotype that people are being told they have to hold on to.

    These words also seem to say that if you don't have a gripe, then stay away. Why would a representative only want people with gripes? Is everyone required to have a complaint that only she can fix?

    The worst things about the Democrats is:
    1. Promising for 50 years to fix poverty but no fix has happened
    2. Calling every person feeling disenchanted in the world to vote for Democrats while never accomplishing anything.
    3. Promoting identity politics so as to divide the nation.

    In the Shrek the Third movie, Charming shows himself as a Democrat by enticing people to be on his side by appealing to their horrible state of living. This is a theatrical representation of identity politics. Maybe Charming's failure should be an example to all those who try to gain power through the same process.
    Last edited by mikewhitney; 07-17-2019 at 03:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    I've been a single-issue voter for over 35 years. I never vote for a candidate who does not at least pretend to be Pro-Life. I'm annoyed that I have to settle for the "rape and incest" exceptions.
    I don't understand the optimistic thinking that after so many decades of people doing this, this will suddenly bear fruit.

    I'm probably going to vote third party if I even vote at all next time around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I have the distinct impression, just from today's postings alone, that those on the left have a blind spot for racism from their own side, and vice versa. It's rather sad.
    I agree -- it's like liberals are so self-virtuos or something that they can't POSSIBLY be racist --- that's only the "other guys" who can be racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Well maybe not, but if that's the way he wants to play........
    Unfortunately, you're not playing. With you, it's the genuine article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Given that the definition of racism you guys seem to want to use is 'any assumption, no matter how benign, regarding a person's race, no matter how obliquely' then yes, it's racist by that definition.
    Trump has a history, Tea. Even the deplorable base know his intent. "that's the kind of white nationalism we elected him for." (Andrew Anglin-founder of the Daily Stormer) Do you really think Trump would have said that about 4 white congressmen for challenging his policies. Of course he wouldn't, and I doubt you'd be defending him for it if he did.

    Using the conservative version 'prejudice and negative bias directed at people of a given race', no it's not racist.
    Since when did that become the conservative version? But at any rate you are correct, what Ayanna Pressley said doesn't fit that definition in the least, but when Trump tells 4 women of color to go back to where they came from, it does.
    Thing is, you only get to use one definition.
    True, and so Trump is a racist, or is at least using racism as a political weapon.
    Last edited by JimL; 07-17-2019 at 04:03 PM.

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