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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I see the group of you as a whole have no intention of finding something better to do than vent your hatred and disdain my way. Better me than someone else i suppose. Do continue. When you finish, wait 3 days or a week or so and go back and read what you wrote and see how it looks then.

    Jim
    Stop your pity party. I don't hate you, and I doubt anyone else here does.


    Instead of taking on board what people are saying about how you express your views, you're deflecting it as an attack on you. That allows you to feel justified in your own eyes, and ignore the substantive points being made. You are the one who expresses your disdain and moral superiority to others in almost every post you make in Civics. Teal documented it, I pointed it out to you in the thread from last month, numerous others have pointed it out.

    You see yourself as calling others to consider their moral position, but everyone else sees what you post as a general attack on them for 'supporting evil'.

    Own what you post, bro. Despite your good intentions the effect is to make others feel insulted and morally judged.


    I will evaluate what Trump (or anyone else) says or does on the basis of fair and objective analysis of the actual facts. That is my duty as a follower of Jesus.

    I won't rush to judgment, or judge uncharitably, or allow myself to be pressured into a judgment by attempts to coerce me, or manipulate me by suggesting that I must agree if I am a truly moral Christian. That is my duty as a follower of Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I see the group of you as a whole have no intention of finding something better to do than vent your hatred and disdain my way.

    not me
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    ...vent your hatred and disdain my way.
    You need to give up the persecution complex, because it is seriously affecting your judgement and ability to rationally interact with others. I might also recommend that you approach these discussions with a new paradigm:

    1) President Trump is not the devil.
    2) Christians can, in good conscience, support the President without compromising our core values.

    In other words, give us the benefit of the doubt instead of insisting that we necessarily see everything your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    God bless you Teal. I think you probably somehow feel justified in the current campaign to highlight each and every thing you despise in me - but really? How much longer do you plan to continue along this tack of posts filled with direct personal attacks on every element of me you find distasteful?



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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    What I have a very hard time doing is watching so many defend what Trump said, or laugh at the people he said it about.

    To support Trump it seems is to lose pieces of one's humanity. I've watched it happen day after day on TWEB over the course of his presidency. Each day he takes another step into the mud, and each day people drop another piece of their soul and follow him in.


    Jim
    What happened in past will happen again. Almost tradition, does not make Trump special evil. Please to deal with it!
    Trump is basically "Bruce Wayne pretending to be a foppish retarded billionaire" tier genius, in case nerds need a simpler metaphor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I would encourage you to look again. I know that in all my posts that bring up the morality of a certain issue, my intent is to point out why certain ideas or responses are inconsistent with the good people I believe you to be.

    Jim

    Everyone is telling you the same thing
    and Teal actually went to the trouble to collect the various posts where you do so in this thread. I had pointed it out to you earlier in the thread, and I and others have pointed it out to you in various other threads. You have a tendency to condemn us (not personally but as a group) because we don't condemn what you believe Trump has done. By not believing what you believe about Trump, we are somehow complicit in his evil as you see it. You can't seem to get the concept that not everyone agrees with your view of Trump, and don't believe he is doing what you think he is doing. You assume your view is "fact" and everyone should agree with that and if they don't they are bad/immoral/etc. You can't seem to grasp that maybe, just maybe, you are the one who is wrong, or that others can have a different opinion of Trump and his actions and not be bad/immoral/etc. - you suffer from a black and white view of Trump and us. We either have to accept your world view or they are bad, or unchristian.

    And when we get upset and try to explain it to you, you can't seem to see it and keep denying it, while saying we are being hostile to you and again, making us the bad guys.

    Yes, a few people have actually been nasty to you and that is wrong, but most of us have not. We just disagree with your views on Trump. And we let you know. And we are upset at your characterization of us as immoral or unchristian and let you know.

    For example, this post is NOT attacking you. I am just trying to get you to see what your posts look like to me and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I see the group of you as a whole have no intention of finding something better to do than vent your hatred and disdain my way. Better me than someone else i suppose. Do continue. When you finish, wait 3 days or a week or so and go back and read what you wrote and see how it looks then.

    Jim

    You're the one who seems to have nothing better to do than poke people, and then whine when some push back. It's like some of the whiny bully types I had back in school, I put up with bullying back then, but I don't anymore. So I'm not exactly the kind to buy that crap whrn I see it. If you plan on acting like that don't be surprised when people treat you appropriately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Bull crap Jim, first there is no actual evidence that Nixon had an effect on the peace process...



    There was never a serious peace prospect, so Nixon did not cause more deaths. He is the one who ENDED the Democrat war...
    Obviously seer, you didn't read the linked article. Even the Title makes the point. Whether the N. Vietnamese were serious about the truce talks or not is, for one, speculation, and for two, irrelevant. The fact is that Nixon did it, and his intent was to keep the wargoing in order to give himself a campaign advantage. So, whether he was ultimately responsible for all of those subsequent soldiers deaths or not, that was his intent which he carried out. Now, do you still like Tricky Dick?

    Btw, do you know what that's called? It's called treason!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Obviously seer, you didn't read the linked article. Even the Title makes the point. Whether the N. Vietnamese were serious about the truce talks or not is, for one, speculation, and for two, irrelevant. The fact is that Nixon did it, and his intent was to keep the wargoing in order to give himself a campaign advantage. So, whether he was ultimately responsible for all of those subsequent soldiers deaths or not, that was his intent which he carried out. Now, do you still like Tricky Dick?

    Btw, do you know what that's called? It's called treason!
    Hey Jim, there wasn't any actual evidence that they actually contacted the North Vietnamese, it was all innuendo - if you think otherwise post the quotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    Except that there are term limits. Trump is just another parenthesis in American history. Eventually that parenthesis closes. That'll be by next election, or more like five years from now.
    But, but, but.... that doesn't support the extreme-lefty conspiracy theory nuttery! Trump is going to declare himself King...
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