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Democrats' Far-Left Lean Risks More Than the Presidency

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  • #31
    Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
    Yes, win again most likely, keep winning bigly on big issues!
    Well, look what the cat drug in!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Well, look what the cat drug in!


      Demi probably not back back too. We'll see!
      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JimL View Post
        The problem is that there is tension between the strict capitalist side of the divide and the socialist side. Capitalists don't want any government interference or regulations, whereas socialist, or democratic socialists believe in capitalism that is regulated by government.
        Wrong, Big Business wantregulations, for block of competition.
        Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JimL View Post
          We live in a capitalist/socialist system right now so trying to put people in either one category or the other is meaningless. The problem is that there is tension between the strict capitalist side of the divide and the socialist side. Capitalists don't want any government interference or regulations, whereas socialist, or democratic socialists believe in capitalism that is regulated by government.
          Big business loves regulation because it does more damage to smaller competition. A billion dollar operation can afford to take a few million dollar hit that a small business can’t afford. Remember, Wal-Mart, Apple, Amazon, Google, etc started as small time operations and there well aware that a current small business can rise and knock them down. Why do you think they are all for federal min wage hikes and other such regulations? They have been spending the past few years raising their starting wages, so a min wage bump effects them very little compared to a small operation operating on a much smaller budget.
          Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 07-20-2019, 01:15 PM.
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          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • #35
            Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
            Big business loves regulation because it does more damage to smaller competition. A billion dollar operation can afford to take a few million dollar hit that a small business can’t afford.


            Source: Roosevelt - I welcome their hatred

            They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. And we know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I welcome their hatred.

            © Copyright Original Source

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I welcome their hatred.[/cite]
              Sounds like Trump, must be racist Nazi!!
              Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                Wrong, Big Business wantregulations, for block of competition.
                Then why do they spend so much money lobbying for repeal of regulations? The big auto makers fought against seat belts, then they fought against airbags, emission standards, etc. Big tobacco fought against warning labels on tobacco products. What you're saying may be selectively true in isolated cases to suppress competition, but the evidence points against it being true across the board.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Jim B. View Post
                  Then why do they spend so much money lobbying for repeal of regulations? The big auto makers fought against seat belts, then they fought against airbags, emission standards, etc. Big tobacco fought against warning labels on tobacco products. What you're saying may be selectively true in isolated cases to suppress competition, but the evidence points against it being true across the board.
                  Because demi-conservative and Lilpix have no idea of what they are talking about.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                    Sounds like Trump, must be racist Nazi!!
                    Yep, except with FDR he was refering to the Big Banks and Corporations, with Trump it's about immigrants and people of color.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Jim B. View Post
                      Then why do they spend so much money lobbying for repeal of regulations?
                      Obviously they want make money, so sometimes regulations help them, sometimes hurt. Not simple naive situation of 'all regulations hurt them or else not'.
                      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        Yep, except with FDR he was refering to the Big Banks and Corporations, with Trump it's about immigrants and people of color.
                        Big Banks against Trump, Big Social Media, Big Mainstream Media... so many woke corporations hate guts of Trump.
                        Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Jim B. View Post
                          Then why do they spend so much money lobbying for repeal of regulations?
                          They'd lobby for repeal of regulations hampering their own operations.

                          The big auto makers fought against seat belts, then they fought against airbags, emission standards, etc. Big tobacco fought against warning labels on tobacco products. What you're saying may be selectively true in isolated cases to suppress competition, but the evidence points against it being true across the board.
                          I think lobbying should be way more transparent --- who the lobby is, who he/she lobbied, and for what purpose. But the fox is guarding the hen house.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                            Obviously they want make money, so sometimes regulations help them, sometimes hurt. Not simple naive situation of 'all regulations hurt them or else not'.
                            Rethinking your position I see, demi. Too late!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                              Big Banks against Trump, Big Social Media, Big Mainstream Media... so many woke corporations hate guts of Trump.
                              Banks and Corporations love Trump and the main stream media simply calls it as they see it, That is why the conservatives decided to build a propaganda machine to demean the media as fake news. Trump is certainly jumping on that bandwagon. "Just remember, what you see isn't really what's happening." Listen to me, don't listen to what the lying media says. Republicans have fallen for it too, hook, line, and sinker.

                              Besides, that wasn't the point, the point was that the quote from FDR was directed at Corporations and Big Banks, Trumps remarks of defiance would be directed at immigrant and people of color. So, Trump might sound like FDR, but their targets are far different.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                                But you guys believe anything left of Reagan to be socialism. So why should anyone take it seriously when US Conservatives cry wolf that this or that leftist person is socialist?
                                Even the New York Times admit that the Democrats are the ones moving left while the Republicans and not moving a lot. They just say that it is closer to the median in Europe. However the following graphic from the article shows them being beside the British Labour Party. I don't think that is a good place to be.

                                Democrats move left.JPG

                                It's from this article. Obviously they paint it as a good thing but I'm just pointing out that the Democrats have moved a lot too the left in recent years.

                                https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...far-right.html
                                “I didn’t go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of Port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly don’t recommend Christianity.” - C.S. Lewis

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