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    Democrats' Far-Left Lean Risks More Than the Presidency

    Democrats' Far-Left Lean Risks More Than the Presidency

    Not at all friendly to Trump, some interesting points about the left, and a warning of "dire consequences"...

    If the Democratic Party keeps surging to the left and nominates a 2020 candidate who can be credibly labeled “socialist,” “radical” or just far out of mainstream, it will not only reelect Donald Trump, but unleash a cascade of nightmares on itself and the nation.

    Unpopular as he is, President Trump likely would win narrowly, but whatever the margin, he will feel vindicated and unleashed. To do what? For sure, to continue treating unwanted immigrants with systematic cruelty, claiming to help the working middle class while further enriching the wealthy, offending foreign allies while coddling dictators, dividing the nation and demeaning political discourse.

    Other dire scenarios await if the party keeps heading left, responding to its liberal base and the pressure of TV debates. One possible outcome is that Democrats will lose what slim chance they have of retaking the Senate. Then Trump will be able to nominate and confirm probably at least one more and possibly two more conservative Supreme Court justices, plus lower court justices and executive branch officials who’ll carry out his will.

    It gets worse. Democrats recaptured the House in 2018 because 40 moderates took seats Republicans won in 2016. If the party is deemed far-left in 2020, Democrats could lose control of the House and Trump could once again operate without any serious congressional oversight.

    No one seems to realize the danger more than Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has been resisting liberal pressure to begin impeachment proceedings that would inflame Trump’s base.

    And she has been trying to tame the most left-wing elements of her caucus, the four-member so-called “Squad” led by first-term socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who has been lionized by the media and is being used by Trump to brand the entire Democratic Party as radical.

    Pelosi clearly is motivated by her past experience as speaker from 2007 to 2011, when she acted as a “San Francisco liberal,” epitomized by her forcing Obamacare through the House on a party-line vote. As a result, Democrats lost 63 seats in 2010 and she lost her speakership.

    Besides Trump unleashed, chances of winning the Senate lost, a more conservative Supreme Court and loss of the House majority, a fifth potential nightmare scenario for Democrats is another decade of GOP domination at the state level......



    Because the liberals keep boasting about the takeover of the House, I thought this was part was especially interesting....

    Democrats recaptured the House in 2018 because 40 moderates took seats Republicans won in 2016. If the party is deemed far-left in 2020, Democrats could lose control of the House and Trump could once again operate without any serious congressional oversight.
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    But you guys believe anything left of Reagan to be socialism. So why should anyone take it seriously when US Conservatives cry wolf that this or that leftist person is socialist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    But you guys believe anything left of Reagan to be socialism. So why should anyone take it seriously when US Conservatives cry wolf that this or that leftist person is socialist?
    I'll wait for "you guys" to answer this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I'll wait for "you guys" to answer this post.
    Oh come on Cow Poke, there's a lot of posters on this forum who are all over the place when it comes to what socialism is, or isn't, or whether its "socialism lite", "communism lite" or just welfare. While the same people will point out that Denmark is not socialism, despite having a lot of the policies accused of being socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    Oh come on Cow Poke, there's a lot of posters on this forum who are all over the place when it comes to what socialism is, or isn't, or whether its "socialism lite", "communism lite" or just welfare. While the same people will point out that Denmark is not socialism, despite having a lot of the policies accused of being socialism.
    I'm not into arguing what socialism is. To me, it's kinda like the definition of porn - you'll know it when you see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I'm not into arguing what socialism is. To me, it's kinda like the definition of porn - you'll know it when you see it.
    At any rate, "socialism" can just be redefined as "Any policy that US conservatives disagree with."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    At any rate, "socialism" can just be redefined as "Any policy that US conservatives disagree with."
    ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    At any rate, "socialism" can just be redefined as "Any policy that US conservatives disagree with."
    When monies are taken out of the pocket of an earner and given to a non-earner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    When monies are taken out of the pocket of an earner and given to a non-earner.
    Orson Welles was once brought before a hearing on being accused of unamerican activities, due to his associations with left-leaning theaters. So he cheekily asked them to define "Socialism" and was told.

    "Well... Socialism is when the government takes your money and gives it to other people."
    "In that case I am 37% socialist, the rest of me is capitalist."

    I'll see if I can get a link to the interview where he said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    When monies are taken out of the pocket of an earner and given to a non-earner.
    ... without the earner's consent.
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