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Democrats' Far-Left Lean Risks More Than the Presidency
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostObviously they want make money, so sometimes regulations help them, sometimes hurt. Not simple naive situation of 'all regulations hurt them or else not'.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostI agree. But if you look at the actual record of big oil, big coal, the big auto makers and tobacco, etc, the big combines have acted pretty much in concert (read "collusion") to lobby against regulation.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Darth Ovious View PostEven the New York Times admit that the Democrats are the ones moving left while the Republicans and not moving a lot. They just say that it is closer to the median in Europe. However the following graphic from the article shows them being beside the British Labour Party. I don't think that is a good place to be.
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It's from this article. Obviously they paint it as a good thing but I'm just pointing out that the Democrats have moved a lot too the left in recent years.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...far-right.html
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostSanders is a standard New deal Democrat. Nixon could not even be a Republican now -- he initiated the EPA and other federal agencies(which most Republicans now want to abolish) and seriously considered a national minimum income. So in the long-term, the Rebublicans have moved far further to the right than the dems have moved to the left.
The Democrats used to be the "God and Country" party when I was a kid --- they are abandoning both.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostYe, I would say that these were cases of collusion according to that definition. Note the word "or".
Unless, of course, you want to sound like s conspiracy theory nut.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostRethinking your position I see, demi. Too late!
Originally posted by JimL View PostBanks and Corporations love Trump and the main stream media simply calls it as they see it, That is why the conservatives decided to build a propaganda machine to demean the media as fake news. Trump is certainly jumping on that bandwagon. "Just remember, what you see isn't really what's happening." Listen to me, don't listen to what the lying media says. Republicans have fallen for it too, hook, line, and sinker.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhat are you, Darth Executor's puppy dog?Last edited by demi-conservative; 07-21-2019, 03:42 PM.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOR.... Nixon wasn't a typical Republican. I really don't think you can make the case for the Republicans moving further to the right than the Democrats have moved to the left simply by picking two atypical examples for comparison.
The Democrats used to be the "God and Country" party when I was a kid --- they are abandoning both.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostHow about Eisenhower, then, Javits, Lindsay, Percy, Kassebaum, Ford, Bush Sr.,etc.... Look at all the retired Republicans who are aghast at Trump and at the compliance of the spineless Republican Congress who put their own re-election ahead of the good of the country. You're right that there were Dems who talked a lot about God and country, but you have to remember that that was the Cold War and somewhat of an anomaly. Also the culture has become more secular generally.
It wasn't just about the cold war - there was a sense that our nation was blessed by God in a special sense, hence the adding of "In God We Trust" to our currency and the addition of "under God" to our pledge of allegiance. There was a general sense of patriotism - of being proud to be Americans. Now, the Democrats appear to want all that gone - open borders, remove God from the public venue, etc... Much of that gained footing in the mid 60's and has progressed at an accelerated pace.
Do you really think Trump is genunely, deeply religious?
And the vast majority of Dems are deeply patriotic, such as the ones who've served.
They may not wear it on their sleeves as flagrantly or wrap themselves in the flag as garishly as repubs but they are as patriotic if not more so, including immigrants such as Omar. It just doesn't fit the narrative of the far right.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAre you older than dirt?
It wasn't just about the cold war - there was a sense that our nation was blessed by God in a special sense, hence the adding of "In God We Trust" to our currency and the addition of "under God" to our pledge of allegiance. There was a general sense of patriotism - of being proud to be Americans. Now, the Democrats appear to want all that gone - open borders, remove God from the public venue, etc... Much of that gained footing in the mid 60's and has progressed at an accelerated pace.
Not sure where you got that notion, but a clear answer --- no, I don't think so at all.
And that's a great distinction -- but the leadership of the party is now in the hands of the extreme leftists who --- sheeesh, do you remember the Democratic convention of 2012, where they couldn't even agree on wording about God in the party platform?
OK, you're kinda sounding like a parody of an extreme leftist there. By the way, I'm not a Republican - I'm an Independent.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostI feel like in some ways the extreme left is a reaction to the extreme movement of the right. IMO it won't get any better unless ACTUAL adults are in charge and there aren't any adults in charge.
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