Democrats' Far-Left Lean Risks More Than the Presidency

[Adrift]

There aren't many credible Independents for whom to vote - so I go with who most lines up with my beliefs, and on the abortion and same sex marriage, that's pretty much limited to Republicans.

Hmm. So why do you consider yourself an Independent? Why not just consider yourself a Republican?

[Bill the Cat]

Pretty sure my folks voted Carter too. Dude was a Christian and wore it on his sleeve, so I can see why people liked him. Great guy, not so great president.

My step-mom was his 2nd cousin.

[Adrift]

My step-mom was his 2nd cousin.

Wow. Did she vote for him?

[Bill the Cat]

Wow. Did she vote for him?

Yes. Dad did too.

[Darth Ovious]

How about Eisenhower, then, Javits, Lindsay, Percy, Kassebaum, Ford, Bush Sr.,etc.... Look at all the retired Republicans who are aghast at Trump and at the compliance of the spineless Republican Congress who put their own re-election ahead of the good of the country.

Or perhaps Trump was listening to Obama and Clinton when he came up with his policies.

[KingsGambit]

Both the far left and the far right will always exist, so none in itself is a reaction to the other. They both feed off one another and increase in power in a symbiotic relationship, but they're not "created" in response to any one person or event.

[Sparko]

Both the far left and the far right will always exist, so none in itself is a reaction to the other. They both feed off one another and increase in power in a symbiotic relationship, but they're not "created" in response to any one person or event.

And they are more alike than they are different. Antifa and KKK: both authoritative, hate-mongering, and violent.

[Cow Poke]

Hmm. So why do you consider yourself an Independent? Why not just consider yourself a Republican?

Because I'm disgusted with the Republican party. Long ago, I started writing "GROW A SPINE" on their solicitations with prepaid postage return envelopes. I get VERY FEW solicitations from the Republicans these days.

[Cow Poke]

Actually no, the right has had a strategy for decades of going as far right as possible policywise in order to pull the left further to the middle. It worked to some extent. But the result is a frustrated and determined left which is what you see on the rise now in people like those elected in 2018.

Yes, the left's wonderful new plan is "kill more babies", "erase the borders", "admit more illegals", and "free stuff for everybody".

[Cow Poke]

Both the far left and the far right will always exist, so none in itself is a reaction to the other. They both feed off one another and increase in power in a symbiotic relationship, but they're not "created" in response to any one person or event.

It's the middle that has pretty much disappeared. Just out of curiosity, how many conservative Democrats do you know? We used to have some of those.

[rogue06]

Because I'm disgusted with the Republican party. Long ago, I started writing "GROW A SPINE" on their solicitations with prepaid postage return envelopes. I get VERY FEW solicitations from the Republicans these days.

You are an example of what I mean when I say that Trump is the result of a MSM that incessantly savages conservatives and a cry from their members to fight back for once.

[Cow Poke]

You are an example of what I mean when I say that Trump is the result of a MSM that incessantly savages conservatives and a cry from their members to fight back for once.

Trump is fighting back, but in such a nutty way. If he were capable of drawing people together instead of dividing, 2020 would be a landslide in his favor.

[JimL]

And they are more alike than they are different. Antifa and KKK: both authoritative, hate-mongering, and violent.

Their respective goals differ. KKK is white supremacist, racist, fascism, while Antifa is anti-white supremacy, racist, fascism. The two don't exactly fit the same category.

[RumTumTugger]

Their respective goals differ. KKK is white supremacist, racist, fascism, while Antifa is anti-white supremacy, racist, fascism. The two don't exactly fit the same category.

Define Fascim JimL.

[Teallaura]

There was a TV movie back in the 1980s that had McCarthy heading up the House Un-American Activities Committee. McCarthy was a Senator.