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    “Top Gun 2” Is the Tom Cruise Midlife Crisis Movie We Deserve

    “Top Gun 2” Is the Tom Cruise Midlife Crisis Movie We Deserve

    Tell me it isn't SO!!!!

    (And they won't even need to use that FaceApp to make him look old)

    When you think of leads in incredible film runs, your mind might go to Al Pacino from Panic in Needle Park in 1971 all the way to 1999’s Any Given Sunday, with the Godfather films (not counting the third), Dog Day Afternoon, Scarface and more hits than misses in between. Or Harrison Ford in the late-’70s when he was Han Solo and Indiana Jones, and still managed to find time to shape our idea of a dystopian future with Blade Runner. Or Humphrey Bogart’s late-’40s noir run, Robert De Niro’s three-decade run with Martin Scorsese, Denzel Washington from the ’90s well into the aughts, Meryl Streep’s entire career… and so on.

    The point is, there are misses and gaps in all of those resumes. Nobody is perfect. For every Serpico or Scent of a Woman you get a Dick Tracy. Films that might not make sense in the middle of incredible runs or just downright suck. (The 1990 live-action version of the famous comic detective that Pacino played in doesn’t suck, it’s just weird.)

    For well over a decade, from the early ’80s into the new millennium, Tom Cruise had one of those runs. Start with 1983’s Risky Business, work your way through The Color of Money and Rain Man, and end up at 1999’s Magnolia, and you get one of the more impressive little runs in movie history. He might not have a Goodfellas or Training Day in there, but there’s at least one Cruise film in that span that resonates with just about everybody. The biggest difference between Cruise and those other people is that, for the most part, they all stage late-career comebacks. (De Niro is TBD. Let’s see how he is in The Irishman.) Cruise pretty much did it all in the ’80s and ’90s, and has sort of been on auto-pilot since......

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    I think he is a robot.

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    Maybe this will bring Sterling Archer out of his years-long coma.

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    Somehow I missed the original Top Gun when it was out. In the Air Force I got called Maverick or Iceman a bit cause I wore aviators on duty all the time. A few years ago I finally sat down and watched it. Really wanted to see why it's been so hyped over the years, and (unpopular view)...I wasn't a fan. Here's a short review I wrote on it to some of my friends on Facebook,

    The acting is pretty decent, and it's neat to see an all star cast right before they blew up. Tom Cruise, Val Kilmer, Anthony Edwards, Tim Robbins, and Meg Ryan all became household names after this film. Others like Tom Skerritt, Michael Ironside, and James Tolkan were highly recognizable regulars in this period. Tom Cruise acts more like a real human being in this film than I've seen him in a long long time. Its just the simple mannerisms and levity that makes him seem less like the brainwashed robot he seems in his later films (and I'm a fan of his later films). Even his distracting unibrow makes him seem a bit more human. I was also really impressed by the camera shots of the flight crews, and how they filmed the fighters. That could not have been easy to do in the mid-80s. The DTS-HD audio track on the bluray is unbelievable with a decent 5.1/7.1 speaker setup. Jets sound like they're flying right over your head, and the musical score is extremely lush, filling all the speakers.

    The bad. Pretty much everything else for me. The ridiculous playing-hard-to-get then lightning-fast romance. The impromptu public singing anytime anyone is in a bar. The shirtless hunk-guy scenes. The not-so-clever one-liners that sound like they came from a bunch of boneheaded frat boys (actually that part rings true based on my military experience). The boring inspirational speeches. Also, why is everyone always so sweaty all the time? Didn't they have central air in the 80s?

    The film really does feel like what it is...a Tony Scott directed, Jerry Bruckheimer produced big box office schlockfest. It reminded me a lot of other melodramatic romantic action films like Titanic, and especially that other cringe-inducing Bruckheimer film, Pearl Harbor. I think its the military theme, and Bruckheimer's playing up that sort of all-American cheesiness. I liked Tony Scott's films well enough (R.I.P.), but he was no Ridley. Then again, he was mercifully no Michael Bay either.


    At any rate, the trailer for this sequel looks a lot better. Hoping it is.

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    I'll wait til it comes out on VHS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    At any rate, the trailer for this sequel looks a lot better. Hoping it is.
    Kinda wondering what Cruise will be flying. In the trailer, at the end, he's wearing a fully pressurized suit like a U-2 pilot would wear. There's nothing in the Navy's inventory that would require such a suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Kinda wondering what Cruise will be flying. In the trailer, at the end, he's wearing a fully pressurized suit like a U-2 pilot would wear. There's nothing in the Navy's inventory that would require such a suit.
    Maybe they are sending him up in a test craft that launches into space? Meh....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    Somehow I missed the original Top Gun when it was out. In the Air Force I got called Maverick or Iceman a bit cause I wore aviators on duty all the time. A few years ago I finally sat down and watched it. Really wanted to see why it's been so hyped over the years, and (unpopular view)...I wasn't a fan. Here's a short review I wrote on it to some of my friends on Facebook,

    The acting is pretty decent, and it's neat to see an all star cast right before they blew up. Tom Cruise, Val Kilmer, Anthony Edwards, Tim Robbins, and Meg Ryan all became household names after this film. Others like Tom Skerritt, Michael Ironside, and James Tolkan were highly recognizable regulars in this period. Tom Cruise acts more like a real human being in this film than I've seen him in a long long time. Its just the simple mannerisms and levity that makes him seem less like the brainwashed robot he seems in his later films (and I'm a fan of his later films). Even his distracting unibrow makes him seem a bit more human. I was also really impressed by the camera shots of the flight crews, and how they filmed the fighters. That could not have been easy to do in the mid-80s. The DTS-HD audio track on the bluray is unbelievable with a decent 5.1/7.1 speaker setup. Jets sound like they're flying right over your head, and the musical score is extremely lush, filling all the speakers.

    The bad. Pretty much everything else for me. The ridiculous playing-hard-to-get then lightning-fast romance. The impromptu public singing anytime anyone is in a bar. The shirtless hunk-guy scenes. The not-so-clever one-liners that sound like they came from a bunch of boneheaded frat boys (actually that part rings true based on my military experience). The boring inspirational speeches. Also, why is everyone always so sweaty all the time? Didn't they have central air in the 80s?

    The film really does feel like what it is...a Tony Scott directed, Jerry Bruckheimer produced big box office schlockfest. It reminded me a lot of other melodramatic romantic action films like Titanic, and especially that other cringe-inducing Bruckheimer film, Pearl Harbor. I think its the military theme, and Bruckheimer's playing up that sort of all-American cheesiness. I liked Tony Scott's films well enough (R.I.P.), but he was no Ridley. Then again, he was mercifully no Michael Bay either.


    At any rate, the trailer for this sequel looks a lot better. Hoping it is.
    You have to realize that all of the tropes weren't really that cliche back when the film first came out. A lot of films copied from this one and made them tropes. It looks pretty corny to me today too, but I thought it was great when it first came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    You have to realize that all of the tropes weren't really that cliche back when the film first came out. A lot of films copied from this one and made them tropes. It looks pretty corny to me today too, but I thought it was great when it first came out.
    Yeah, that might be it. I don't know. I mean, I watched a lot of movies in the 80s, and none of those others felt as corny. Maybe I would have given it a pass back then, but I know 10 years later when movies like Bad Boys, and The Rock came out, I thought they were completely cheeseball and over the top stupid. Granted, I really liked Beverly Hills Cops I and II when they came out, and they're also Bruckheimer productions, so...eh, who knows. I haven't revisited them since the 80s, and maybe they don't stand up to the test of time as well as I remember though.

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