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  • #16
    Here's a little less Dumbsterized version of this from Market to Market...

    Unlike the false narrative of the OP that researchers were given only 1 month notice, they actually have over 2 months, and their decision isn't "final" until they do or do not show up for work September 30.

    Employees can change their decision until they are expected to report to Kansas City on Sept. 30.

    Members of the Kansas and Missouri congressional delegations and the states' governors praised the USDA's move when it was announced, saying the agencies are a good fit for the region. But critics argued that moving them will make it harder for federal policymakers to get objective research that might raise questions about President Donald Trump's policies.

    It's not yet clear whether the researchers will work in Kansas or Missouri. Economic development officials from both states worked to lure the jobs and cities in both states are working to land the USDA offices.

    Perdue said that moving most employees out of Washington would bring the Economic Research Service and National Institute of Food and Agriculture closer to farmers and agribusinesses they serve. He also said the USDA would save about $20 million a year on rent and other employee costs, freeing up extra dollars for research.

    Critics said the research agencies have lost veteran employees and been unable to fill vacancies since the USDA announced last year it was considering moving their headquarters.

    The American Federation of Government Employees, which represents workers at the two research agencies, opposed the plan. Employees at both recently unionized.

    The Economic Research Service examines a wide range of issues, including the rural economy, international trade, food safety and programs that provide food assistance to poor Americans. The National Institute of Food and Agriculture provides grants for agricultural research.


    Saving $20 million a year "in rent and other employee costs" will supposedly make more money available for research.

    In a way "Only 37 percent are moving" is kinda like all those people who said "If Trump is elected, I'm moving to Canada". We'll see if the move actually happens, and if some of the "I'm not moving" employees change their minds.

    Also, I wonder how much of this is a result (or related to) the fact that these agencies just unionized.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JimL View Post
      Policies like effectively shutting down the USDA. As I said in the OP, Trump decided without notice to move the USDA from Washington DC to Kansas City, giving the scientist's and others 1 month to either uproot themselves and their families, pack up and move to Kansas City or lose their jobs. Ya know, he doesn't want science to interfere with his plans, like rewarding his big Corporate donors.
      Trump didn't have very many big corporate donors, unlike Hillary. And those few he did have wouldn't benefit by such a move.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Policies like what?
        WaPo

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        • #19
          A government employee having to move because of their job? Pretty much business as usual. Heck, every single congressman and had to move to DC when they were elected. Every person in the military has to move around the world every few years. As an Army brat, I went to 12 different schools all around the world growing up. I would think that for anyone moving from DC to Kansas City, it would be like getting a huge raise. They will be getting the same pay, but their cost of living will have dropped by probably half in just housing costs alone.

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          • #20
            Plus, Kansas City is a much nicer place to live than Washington DC.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #21
              Trump must be the most hugest greatest President ever, to personally do all this.

              He not only hob-nobs with assorted Russians and North Koreans on a regular basis, attends his KKK chapter meetings, plays endless rounds of golf, posts on Twitter, holds rallies to boost the white supremacists who form his voter base (millions of them!), harasses beautiful women, searches for suitably shady and disreputable people to nominate to the Supreme Court, builds cages to keep poor refugee children in - all that and much more - but he somehow finds time to hatch and personally implement an evil plan to wipe out the bees! What a guy! What a broad and yet focussed range of evil machinations!
              ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                WaPo
                From that, you join in with the drama queens and extrapolate something sinister.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  A government employee having to move because of their job? Pretty much business as usual. Heck, every single congressman and had to move to DC when they were elected. Every person in the military has to move around the world every few years. As an Army brat, I went to 12 different schools all around the world growing up. I would think that for anyone moving from DC to Kansas City, it would be like getting a huge raise. They will be getting the same pay, but their cost of living will have dropped by probably half in just housing costs alone.
                  But the lobbyists will have to split their time between DC and KC!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    But the lobbyists will have to split their time between DC and KC!
                    But on the plus side, they can visit Oklahoma Joe's in Kansas City for some of the best barbecue in the world.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      But on the plus side, they can visit Oklahoma Joe's in Kansas City for some of the best barbecue in the world.
                      One of the things that really amazed me when Mrs CP and I visited the big Boeing factory was that the project engineers had cubicles down on the assembly floor in very close proximity to where the jets were actually being assembled. They weren't hunkered down in some fancy office in another state, or downtown, or even in a separate building -- they were right there for easy access if somebody had a problem, they could literally walk for a few minutes and see what the problem is first hand.

                      I kinda like the idea of 'fielding' people closer to their work instead of some expensive building in DC.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        it's not like the USDA doesn't have field service offices all across the country anyway.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
                          Trump must be the most hugest greatest President ever, to personally do all this.

                          He not only hob-nobs with assorted Russians and North Koreans on a regular basis, attends his KKK chapter meetings, plays endless rounds of golf, posts on Twitter, holds rallies to boost the white supremacists who form his voter base (millions of them!), harasses beautiful women, searches for suitably shady and disreputable people to nominate to the Supreme Court, builds cages to keep poor refugee children in - all that and much more - but he somehow finds time to hatch and personally implement an evil plan to wipe out the bees! What a guy! What a broad and yet focussed range of evil machinations!
                          Except for the first sentence, you're spot on, Max.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            But the lobbyists will have to split their time between DC and KC!
                            Wrong, all they need is Trump. Btw, have you noticed all the lobbyist he is appointing to administrative positions? Clean the swamp!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Except for the first sentence, you're spot on, Max.
                              ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                Wrong, all they need is Trump. Btw, have you noticed all the lobbyist he is appointing to administrative positions? Clean the swamp!
                                I have noticed a lot of things Trump does that bother me, Jimmy - so I don't have to make stuff up or resort to extreme exaggeration like you do.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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