Supreme Court: The Wall Can Go Foward...

[Charles]

Maybe you should reconsider:


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So, New Zealand takes in 1000 per year - the US has more than 50,000 detained per MONTH. But I notice you aren't petitioning your government to take in any of the 'refugees' you want us to take in. There are ships - we'd be happy to help them get to NZ - IF NZ would take them - which it won't. It won't even have proceedings to determine status, will it?

Hypocrite. It's easy to complain when you don't have to worry about the problem showing up on your doorstep, isn't it?

You call me a hypocrite based on wrong statement or assumption about where I live. Wouldn't it be better to just stay on topic than making false statements about where I live, what I do or don't do and what consequences I live with or not?

I have continually made it a point that this is a question about humans and how they are treated. It seems you cannot acccept that in any way, shape or form. Wonder why if you had good arguments.

[Zara]

Well Chuck seems to want to answer for him when I wasn't talking to him.

Like a whole thread of clowns? All of whom are arguing straw-men?

[Zara]

Maybe you should reconsider:


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Hypocrite. It's easy to complain when you don't have to worry about the problem showing up on your doorstep, isn't it?

The US has changed its cap to 30,000 per year. Which, on a per capita basis, is half that of New Zealand.

But don't let your lack of Christian charity hit you in the face.

[Mountain Man]

Well Chuck seems to want to answer for him when I wasn't talking to him.

I suppose it would be an interesting juggling act to keep the personas straight when one is passive aggressive and the other is overtly aggressive.

[Teallaura]

You call me a hypocrite based on wrong statement or assumption about where I live. Wouldn't it be better to just stay on topic than making false statements about where I live, what I do or don't do and what consequences I live with or not?

I have continually made it a point that this is a question about humans and how they are treated. It seems you cannot acccept that in any way, shape or form. Wonder why if you had good arguments.

Huh, could have sworn you were from NZ - apologies for the error.

In answer to your last question, because you aren't arguing about either of those things - you are repeating false reports and taking digs at anyone who supports Trump - or you think they do.

[Teallaura]

The US has changed its cap to 30,000 per year. Which, on a per capita basis, is half that of New Zealand.

But don't let your lack of Christian charity hit you in the face.

NZ's pop density: 18 ppl/km
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US pop density: 36 ppl/km
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But NZ can only spare room for an extra 1000 per year - who, when they arrive, will be detained for six weeks and then released into one of six locations.

Yeah, on a Population Density basis - which is the superior measure - the US takes in far more people at more than twice the density.

Don't let your lack of common sense hit you in the backside.

[Charles]

I suppose it would be an interesting juggling act to keep the personas straight when one is passive aggressive and the other is overtly aggressive.

Would you be the moderator?

[Cow Poke]

Would you be the moderator?

Why not, he's totally unbiased?

[Sparko]

NZ's pop density: 18 ppl/km
Source

US pop density: 36 ppl/km
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But NZ can only spare room for an extra 1000 per year - who, when they arrive, will be detained for six weeks and then released into one of six locations.

Yeah, on a Population Density basis - which is the superior measure - the US takes in far more people at more than twice the density.

Don't let your lack of common sense hit you in the backside.

it's not only "how many" but "who"

NZ is very picky about who they let in. It took Raphael a lot of effort to be able to immigrate to New Zealand. And if you just show up on their shores, you get detained (ie locked up in cages)

Asylum seekers by boat

New Zealand has had a long-standing concern about boat arrivals of asylum seekers. New Zealand has been an active participant in the Bali Process to prevent boat arrivals. No mass boat arrival has ever made it to New Zealand, although small numbers of arrive by sea and subsequently claimed asylum.

In 2013 a Migration Amendment Bill was introduced which would allow the government to mandatorily detain refugees who arrive by boat in groups of ten or more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_in_New_Zealand

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/06/0...t-boat-people#

The New Zealand Government is warning the boatload of Indian migrants reportedly heading to New Zealand they could be detained for up to six months if they arrive.

The fishing boat, carrying over 100 migrants, left Munambam harbour in Kerala on January 12. Indian police say they've arrested a man who told them the boat was heading to New Zealand.

Over 100 migrants headed for New Zealand by fishing boat, India says

Immigration New Zealand (INZ) says they have processes in place to handle any arrival - including detention.

"Although there has never been a mass arrival in this country there's no doubt that New Zealand is a target for people smugglers and a mass arrival at some stage is a very real possibility that we need to be fully prepared for," says INZ assistant general manager Stephen Vaughan.

"Under the Immigration Act 2009, those who arrive as part of a mass arrival are able to be detained for up to six months and allows this detention period to be extended for up to 28 days at a time, if a District Court Judge determines that is necessary."

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...ey-arrive.html

So Zara should be worrying about his own country's treatment of refugees rather than complaining about ours.

[Charles]

So Zara should be worrying about his own country's treatment of refugees rather than complaining about ours.

Unless, of course, the worry is not about countries but about real human beings.

[seer]

So Zara should be worrying about his own country's treatment of refugees rather than complaining about ours.

Why are New Zealanders so racist and wicked!

[Cow Poke]

Why are New Zealanders so racist and wicked!

It's a result of them being marooned on islands! At least they're not throwing spears at visiting missionaries.


(are they?)

[Sparko]

Unless, of course, the worry is not about countries but about real human beings.

Seems like he has a lot of human beings to worry about in his own back yard.

As do you.

[Sparko]

It's a result of them being marooned on islands! At least they're not throwing spears at visiting missionaries.


(are they?)

They probably just send those poor boat people back to be eaten by sharks.

Zara, why do you feed refugee children to sharks?

[Charles]

Seems like he has a lot of human beings to worry about in his own back yard.

As do you.

Correct. It does, however, not prevent me from worrying about others as well.