Another Racist Tweet?

[Mountain Man]

I don't buy the soft racism theory anyway - Biden is patronizing but I don't see racism there.

There's nothing "soft" about it. Biden is overtly racist, and he has been for decades.

[Teallaura]

You obviously don't understand what is meant by whataboutism, Sparko.

You brought up the Reagan/Nixon thing - but you haven't told us why what Biden said isn't racist. Um, yeah, that fits the definition.

And I don't even think CP's argument holds water!

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Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,^[1][2][3]

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[Teallaura]

There's nothing "soft" about it. Biden is overtly racist, and he has been for decades.

Yeah, yeah - everyone that even looked at Thurmond...

What was presented in thread doesn't meet the smell test - unless we're using a certain left wing logic...

[JimL]

Given the level of understanding you generally evince around here on most topics, you've got no room to talk, Jim. Perhaps if you put a little more effort into your own posts, people wouldn't laugh so much when you attempt to impugn others' ability to understand.

As usual, nothing of substance coming from the peanut gallery.

[JimL]

You brought up the Reagan/Nixon thing - but you haven't told us why what Biden said isn't racist. Um, yeah, that fits the definition.

And I don't even think CP's argument holds water!

Source: Wikipedia

Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,^[1][2][3]

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That's wrong, because my argument with respect to Nixon and Reagan did refute the charge here of racism against Biden. I didn't accuse the claimants with hypocrisy, I showed them the difference between Bidens' non racist inarticulate remark and the actual and blatant racist remarks of Nixon and Reagan. I'm sure they can see the difference, they just can't bring themselves to admit to it.

[Mountain Man]

What was presented in thread doesn't meet the smell test - unless we're using a certain left wing logic...

Really? So if someone said to you, "It sure is nice to see a black man who's clean, articulate, and smells nice," you wouldn't consider that racist?

[Teallaura]

Really? So if someone said to you, "It sure is nice to see a black man who's clean, articulate, and smells nice," you wouldn't consider that racist?

No, because I don't define racist as 'has preconceptions about people of another race'. I define it as 'being significantly negatively prejudiced against people of another race'. Literally complimenting someone - even really stupidly - isn't a negative pre-judgement. I will grant, that in context, it quickly could be - but no, as is, it's patronizing and stupid, not racist.

But I'm in the minority that thinks the R word should only be used when it really applies.

[KingsGambit]

Really? So if someone said to you, "It sure is nice to see a black man who's clean, articulate, and smells nice," you wouldn't consider that racist?

I would say it's definitely rude. Racist? Eh.

[Cow Poke]

Yeah, so, Biden is alive and running for president and is not a racist, and nothing he said, regardless of CP's spin...

Please prove me wrong, if you can.

[Cow Poke]

As usual, nothing of substance coming from the peanut gallery.

I didn't know you were raising peanuts!

[Cow Poke]

No, because I don't define racist as....

"Racism" and "racist" have lost their meaning!

[Teallaura]

"Racism" and "racist" have lost their meaning!

Yup - which is why Jim CAN'T prove you wrong - too many posters around here have used it too loosely.

Which is sad, 'cause in reality, it's not racism to be stupid - or to have low expectations of others.

[Cow Poke]

Yup - which is why Jim CAN'T prove you wrong - too many posters around here have used it too loosely.

Which is sad, 'cause in reality, it's not racism to be stupid - or to have low expectations of others.

So, yeah, I willingly withdraw my statement about Joe being racist. I think it's more that he's ignorant.

[Teallaura]

So, yeah, I willingly withdraw my statement about Joe being racist. I think it's more that he's ignorant.

[NorrinRadd]

So, yeah, I willingly withdraw my statement about Joe being racist. I think it's more that he's ignorant.

On the other hand, I reassert my view that he *is* racist. I don't think it's a binary choice, but rather that there are degrees of racism. Having low expectations of blacks in general, but bearing no animus toward them, would qualify as "soft" racism. (However, I kind of get the impression that even a lot of blacks have low expectations of blacks, and I'm not sure how to label THAT.)