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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    No, they didn't - the South remained solidly DEMOCRAT until the 1980's and did not become solidly REPUBLICAN until the 1990's - Civil Rights did NOT cause that shift. Leftist leanings in the Democratic Party itself - largely beginning in the 1980's - did that.
    As my dad said - "I didn't leave the Democratic Party -- they left me".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Yes, but you answered my question after reading it out of context which ended up being an answer to a differnt question.
    Come on, Jim, that NEVER EVER happens on Tweb!
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Right, but they, ie the republicans, both office holders and the constituency, surged throughout the south shortly thereafter. And that took place long before the 80's and 90's.
    No, they did not. The South remained solidly Democrat until the 1980's - and did not become solidly Republican until the 1990's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Yes, but you answered my question after reading it out of context which ended up being an answer to a differnt question.
    No, you specifically asked:

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    And who was threatening to take away their possessions?
    In direct response to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat
    Maybe the rich plantation owners, but most of the foot soldiers just wanted to keep their possessions. I HIGHLY recommend you watch Free State of Jones.
    Which was in response to:
    Quote Originally Posted by JimL
    Which leaves the ultimate reason being that the south wanted to maintain the slave industry.
    Which was in response to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko
    You are both right!

    The reason there was a war was because part of the USA decided to split off into their own country. The reason for that was to keep slavery.
    Which was in response to:

    Quote Originally Posted by CowPoke
    You're CRAZY! It was about STATES RIGHTS and EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!!!!!



    (Jim, this will be one of the very few times that I'm arguing from a sense of duty and frustration, not from fact)
    And the post that started it was:
    Quote Originally Posted by JimL
    Yeah, and the right the south was fighting for was the right to maintain slavery.

    States rights was a canard, and everybody knows it!

    So the question was asked in context of why the South fought the Civil War - the Southern foot soldiers being more interested in not having all their possessions seized by an occupying army - that would be the context and my answer addresses it as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    As my dad said - "I didn't leave the Democratic Party -- they left me".
    Bill Clinton, back shortly after he left office, is quoted as saying something to the effect of he was being pulled much farther left than he'd ever wanted to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    As my dad said - "I didn't leave the Democratic Party -- they left me".
    Sure, you could put it that way, when the democrat party began to stand up for civil rights they left those behind who continued to stand against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Sure, you could put it that way, when the democrat party began to stand up for civil rights they left those behind who continued to stand against them.
    My Dad put it that way and it had nothing whatsoever to do with your deranged historical revisionism. More recently, many other life-long democrats I know have said the same thing with regard to the Democrat's abandonment of God, and embracing of the culture of death, and of socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Sure, you could put it that way, when the democrat party began to stand up for civil rights they left those behind who continued to stand against them.
    The Democrat party never left them behind Jimmy, youíre repeating more myths and talking points. Why the South became Republican has to do with shifts in Democrats switching from the party of God and Country to the socialist party. I come from a long line of Democrats that voted democrat because of JFK or Truman. Two people that would never be president in the modern Democrat party. I didnít leave the Democrats, they left me.
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    No, you specifically asked:



    In direct response to:



    Which was in response to:


    Which was in response to:



    Which was in response to:



    And the post that started it was:



    So the question was asked in context of why the South fought the Civil War - the Southern foot soldiers being more interested in not having all their possessions seized by an occupying army - that would be the context and my answer addresses it as such.
    Jimmy doesnít get that slavery was a dying institution that likely would have been dead before 1900 in the south, even if the south would have won the civil war.
    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    No, they did not. The South remained solidly Democrat until the 1980's - and did not become solidly Republican until the 1990's.
    Sorry Tea, but you are wrong. The white southern democrats began to revolt in 1948 with the split of the Dixiecrats over civil rights, that revolt culminated in the 60's after Johnsons signing of the CRA and the VRA. Sure, it wasn't a total revolt, and of course African American southerners who were previously republican but blocked from voting, were now able to vote and voted democrat, but the obvious cause for the switch was the democrats stand on civil rights which was of course in direct response to the white supremacist souths oppression of African Americans.

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