Another Racist Tweet?

[Sparko]

No, not whataboutism. What Biden said can in no way be compared to what Nixon and Reagon said.

It is exactly whataboutism, Jimboroony. You were using something someone else did to excuse your guy as 'not as bad'

And since you can't compare the two, how does your bringing up what Reagan did excuse what Biden did? Does Reagan being a racist somehow excuse Biden?

[Bill the Cat]

You're a sick man, BtC.

For saying what Biden himself apologized for (and subsequently kept doing)?

[lilpixieofterror]

Yes he is, but unlike Nixon and Reagan, he's not a racist. Associating black kids with poor kids can hardly be considered racist, unless of course you're biased that way.

Lol:

Richard Nixon is credited for having a strong record on foreign policy, but his record on domestic policy — especially on Civil Rights at home is often overlooked. During his years as vice president under Dwight Eisenhower, he sought to ensure minorities — especially African Americans — weren’t discriminated against in federal contracts. He also worked with Congress to spearhead the Civil Rights Act of 1957, sweeping legislation and a precursor to the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965.

When he reached the presidency, Nixon sought to expand economic opportunities for African Americans by ending discrimination in the work place, through the endowment of black colleges with federal funds, and helping them find meaningful employment through job assistance programs, and promotion of entrepreneurship — an initiative called “Black Capitalism.”

In 1970, perhaps the hall mark of the Nixon administration’s Civil Rights policies, Nixon sought to end the decades old and egregious tradition of segregated schools for black and white children throughout the nation, predominantly in the Southern states.
https://www.nixonfoundation.org/2017...ivil-rights-2/

You’ve been brainwashed by Democrat propaganda, Jimmy.

[Teallaura]

No, not whataboutism. What Biden said can in no way be compared to what Nixon and Reagon said.

Um, Biden is alive and running for president now. Nixon and Reagan have both been dead for two decades or more...

What matters is what he himself says - period. I think the 'soft racism' theory here is silly - you don't try to help people you hate - but the 'but X said worse' is a dumb answer to the problem.

Biden is his own worse enemy. yeah, everyone knows he trips over his own tongue all the time - but there's a limit to how much of a pass that gets him. Eventually, you have to wonder what's gonna happen when he does that in a sensitive situation. That wasn't an immediate issue with him as VP but is an issue for a president - a big one.

[Teallaura]

Yes he is, but unlike Nixon and Reagan, he's not a racist. Associating black kids with poor kids can hardly be considered racist, unless of course you're biased that way.

*emphasis mine

I agree with this part. But if memory serves, you've argued the opposite when Trump made similar statements.

[Cow Poke]

What matters is what he himself says - period. I think the 'soft racism' theory here is silly - you don't try to help people you hate - ...

Which is why I don't see Biden as a "racist" in the sense that he hates black (or other minority) people, but that he sees them as inferior. A lot of people of his age did. My dad did. I think this can be seen in the prevailing attitude of "we have to help them, protect them, make decisions for them, put them on government assistance..."

In the operations in which I am involved, we treat them as equals who have been dealt a bad hand, and challenge them to take charge of their own destiny. The director of our local effort is a man who was a refugee from Hurricane Katrina, and lived in a section of town in New Orleans where there were over a hundred murders a year. It's kinda fun to work with him, because I will frequently hear him say "No, that's an EXCUSE - we don't do that here..."

And we CONSTANTLY see people in our breakfast meetings wave their first paycheck in the air, and shout "I GOT A JOB!!!!!" And we're not talking Walmart or McDonald's -- we're talking local industry, or oilfield, or welding, or nurse's aids...

[Sparko]

*emphasis mine

I agree with this part. But if memory serves, you've argued the opposite when Trump made similar statements.

only poor people in rat-infested neighborhoods.

[JimL]

Um, Biden is alive and running for president now. Nixon and Reagan have both been dead for two decades or more...

Yeah, so, Biden is alive and running for president and is not a racist, and nothing he said, regardless of CP's spin, shows him to be a racist.

What matters is what he himself says - period. I think the 'soft racism' theory here is silly - you don't try to help people you hate - but the 'but X said worse' is a dumb answer to the problem.

That wasn't the point, the point in recalling Nixon and Reagan was to show the difference between what Biden said and actual racist remarks of which Nixon and Reagan were two examples.

Biden is his own worse enemy. yeah, everyone knows he trips over his own tongue all the time - but there's a limit to how much of a pass that gets him. Eventually, you have to wonder what's gonna happen when he does that in a sensitive situation. That wasn't an immediate issue with him as VP but is an issue for a president - a big one.

True, Biden often gets tongue twisted, but that has nothing to do with the charge of racism which some conservatives here are trying so hard to tag him with.

[Mountain Man]

And now Jimmy is defending Biden's racism.

[JimL]

*emphasis mine

I agree with this part. But if memory serves, you've argued the opposite when Trump made similar statements.

Oh please, Trump is consistent, that's not simply mispeak.

[JimL]

It is exactly whataboutism, Jimboroony. You were using something someone else did to excuse your guy as 'not as bad'

And since you can't compare the two, how does your bringing up what Reagan did excuse what Biden did? Does Reagan being a racist somehow excuse Biden?

You obviously don't understand what is meant by whataboutism, Sparko.

[Mountain Man]

Trump criticizes the policies of someone who happens to be black.

"That's racist!" cry the liberals.

Biden says something that is genuinely racist. Again.

"Ah, he didn't mean it! He just misspoke!" cry the liberals.

[Teallaura]

Yeah, so, Biden is alive and running for president and is not a racist, and nothing he said, regardless of CP's spin, shows him to be a racist.

I don't buy the soft racism theory anyway - Biden is patronizing but I don't see racism there.

That wasn't the point, the point in recalling Nixon and Reagan was to show the difference between what Biden said and actual racist remarks of which Nixon and Reagan were two examples.

Using a conversation from the early Seventies to compare to modern sensibilities doesn't do that. Even if it did - it doesn't prove anything about Biden - CP's point would stand (which he can defend his own self if he wants).

True, Biden often gets tongue twisted, but that has nothing to do with the charge of racism which some conservatives here are trying so hard to tag him with.

They are using the word in a way I wouldn't - but to be fair, you use the word differently than I do as well. I think about 90% of the charges of racism are completely bogus - including this one against Biden (although they are using soft racism and I differ more on terminology than effect - he really is patronizing but it's not limited to blacks).

But, if you keep hollering 'wolf' don't be surprised if people start hollering it back at you.

[Teallaura]

Oh please, Trump is consistent, that's not simply mispeak.

Trump doesn't say anything overtly racist - and anything he does say gets misconstrued to the point of defying credulity. Biden, on the other hand, is consistently patronizing - but no, not racist.

[One Bad Pig]

You obviously don't understand what is meant by whataboutism, Sparko.

Given the level of understanding you generally evince around here on most topics, you've got no room to talk, Jim. Perhaps if you put a little more effort into your own posts, people wouldn't laugh so much when you attempt to impugn others' ability to understand.