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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    So complaining about the conditions in which they are forced to endure is now racist?

    I think a better case could be made that ignoring it and/or not caring is racist.
    Ignoring/not caring about what? His district is majority white collar, and 169th out of 435 in median income (just looked it up here: https://public.tableau.com/views/201...showVizHome=no ). There do not appear to be any pressing conditions that it would be racist to "ignore".
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    That perception is because the majority of the people in the district are black.
    Um, so why wasn't it racist when Bernie Sanders called out the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Um, so why wasn't it racist when Bernie Sanders called out the same thing?
    What did Sanders have to say about MD-7?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    So why is this racist?
    Trump has a pattern of behavior where he uses certain negative phrases about black people but never about white people, and certain negative phrases about places where black people live but never about where white people live. That's pretty standard behavior for racists.

    Trump calling a district he knows has a high black population "disgusting, rat and rodent infested" is a pretty standard for him, in line with his racism. If this were a one-off comment that we were considering in isolation it would be hard to know whether or not it was a racially motivated, as perhaps the speaker simply didn't like that particular district. But in Trump's case we have ten billion other tweets and comments on all sorts of subjects, so his general behavioral pattern is clear. Trying to analyse the extent to which a specific statement is racist is beside the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim B. View Post
    Exactly! With all my criticisms of Obama, I must be a racist too! How subtle, how cogent your critique!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    What did Sanders have to say about MD-7?
    Said it was 'like a Third World country' - and not in the good way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    Said it was 'like a Third World country' - and not in the good way.
    He said that about Baltimore, which is not part of MD-7.

    The point is, why single out this relatively affluent district?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Trump has a pattern of behavior where he uses certain negative phrases about black people but never about white people, and certain negative phrases about places where black people live but never about where white people live. That's pretty standard behavior for racists.

    Trump calling a district he knows has a high black population "disgusting, rat and rodent infested" is a pretty standard for him, in line with his racism. If this were a one-off comment that we were considering in isolation it would be hard to know whether or not it was a racially motivated, as perhaps the speaker simply didn't like that particular district. But in Trump's case we have ten billion other tweets and comments on all sorts of subjects, so his general behavioral pattern is clear. Trying to analyse the extent to which a specific statement is racist is beside the point.
    He was slamming a DEMOCRAT. DEMOCRATS seem to think they have the moral high ground on 'taking care of people', but look at the cities run by DEMOCRATS, some of whom happen to be black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I personally suspect that he tweets something provocative whenever he wants to distract the news cycle from something and it works every time.
    Progs so easy to play by Trump.

    "Orange man bad! Orange man racist!!!" for 474th time.
    Trump is basically "Bruce Wayne pretending to be a foppish retarded billionaire" tier genius, in case nerds need a simpler metaphor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    He was slamming a DEMOCRAT.
    Nobody's upset that he was attacking Elijah Cummings, don't be silly. Critiquing political opponents is expected. The issue is that Trump referred to the district Cummings represents as "disgusting, rat and rodent infested". That's a criticism toward the district and/or people in it, not the representative of it. Trump wasn't claiming Elijah Cummings himself is rodent infested.

    DEMOCRATS seem to think they have the moral high ground on 'taking care of people'
    Obviously, and that is only reasonable given taking care of people is inherently a moral issue, so they generally tend toward having the moral high ground. But at this particular point in history, I would personally judge the US Republican party currently to be one of the most immoral major parties in current Western democracies - "evil", "insane", and "unamerican" would seem apt descriptors.

    but look at the cities run by DEMOCRATS
    Pretty much all the cities in the US lean democratic, even in otherwise Red states, because the Blue / Red split in the US usually falls along Urban vs Rural lines.

    Commonly I see conservative propagandists try to use this to mislead their gullible audiences by suggesting that because a few specific cities aren't doing great, and because those particular cities happen to be run by people from the Democratic party as most US cities are, that those specific cities must be doing badly because the Democratic party has bad policies. This conveniently ignores the fact that pretty much all cities are run by people from the democratic party including cities that are doing well. So if the bad cities are doing badly because they're run by the democratic party then are the good cities doing well because they're run by the democratic party???

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