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  • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    I think Jimmy has this idea that without the north winning the Civil War, the south would still have slaves today.
    Especially if he can spin it to make Republicans look bad.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
      I think Jimmy has this idea that without the north winning the Civil War, the south would still have slaves today.
      instead, now they are owned by the Democratic party.

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      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Especially if he can spin it to make Republicans look bad.
        That too. Jimmy can’t seem to figure out that slavery was on its way out, no matter the results of the civil war.
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        • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
          I think Jimmy has this idea that without the north winning the Civil War, the south would still have slaves today.
          Maybe - what's weird to me is how many (not talking about Jim here) people who have rarely so much as seen a real live black person rant about how evil the South was/still is. Yet in their own areas, blacks are still segregated by neighborhood - and class.

          Several of my supervisors/managers over the years were black - one the best manager I ever had. By the end of my career it was getting difficult to tell a white from a black neighborhood even in poor areas (impossible in middle or upper class - always was). Pretty much, you had to look for the swans - assuming the neighborhood was old enough to have them. The kids were no longer telltale - the neighborhoods were organically integrating.

          My understanding is that isn't true for the Southwest (*cough* California *cough*) or the North (dunno about the Midwest).
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          • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
            Do you know why Lincoln kept making speeches about 'preserving the Union'? And Davis was making similar speeches about 'state's rights'? It's because NEITHER the North nor the South could field ARMIES on 'slavery'. Northern mommies weren't gonna send their lily white little boys to die to free slaves. Southern mommies weren't gonna send their lily white little boys to preserve some plantation owner's right to hold slaves.

            That didn't change until the war was in full throttle - at that point both sets of mommies start worrying about what happens when an occupying army arrives - and Little Johnnies from both sides start filling out the ranks so that they don't lose the farm.

            Incidentally, standing armies are mostly a modern thing (yeah, yeah, Rome) - all nations had professional soldiers but the rank and file were usually recruited farm boys. Until the mid-20th century, few nations could field an army without them.
            Republican Rome's armies were farm boys too.
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            • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              Republican Rome's armies were farm boys too.
              True, but Imperial Rome did keep standing armies - and Sam or Carpe were bound to come by and point it out.
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