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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Yet we are still building wind mills and solar farms at a rapid rate.
    Certainly, because there are many US States that recognize the insanity of Trump’s withdrawal from the Paris Agreement and are committed to upholding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post

    I have a hard time believing that Conservatives can't propose solutions to climate change.
    Newsflash, sky not falling. Have good day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Certainly, because there are many US States that recognize the insanity of Trump’s withdrawal from the Paris Agreement and are committed to upholding it.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-s...reement-2017-6
    You mean like conservative Texas that has the largest wind farms in the US? No, the costs of wind and solar are going down making them more competitive. And remember your country is not even on track to meet the Paris accords. So get off your high horse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    Coal mines have strip mined entire mountains, and stockpiled oceans of toxic slurry from the burned mineral coal. There is absolutely no comparison between wind and coal here. Wind could scale up more than a dozen times and not be significant compared to coal in comparison to environmental effects.
    Back in the 1970s, maybe strip-mines destroyed entire ecosystems, but for the last 40 or so years they have been regulated to restore what they tear down. They strip-mined the mountain behind my Grandpa's house in the 1980s and looking at it today you can't tell the difference before they started. They replaced all of the soil and replanted the trees. And also most mines in Appalachia are underground mines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Back in the 1970s, maybe strip-mines destroyed entire ecosystems, but for the last 40 or so years they have been regulated to restore what they tear down. They strip-mined the mountain behind my Grandpa's house in the 1980s and looking at it today you can't tell the difference before they started. They replaced all of the soil and replanted the trees. And also most mines in Appalachia are underground mines.
    The irony, of course, is that a lot of "green" technologies such as electric car batteries and solar panels depend on large quantities of rare earth metals that are often strip mined in countries like India and China that have loose -- or even non-existent-- environmental regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Back in the 1970s, maybe strip-mines destroyed entire ecosystems, but for the last 40 or so years they have been regulated to restore what they tear down. They strip-mined the mountain behind my Grandpa's house in the 1980s and looking at it today you can't tell the difference before they started. They replaced all of the soil and replanted the trees. And also most mines in Appalachia are underground mines.
    We have a number of strip-mined areas around Texas that you'd never know were ever strip-mined. They even have environmentalists on staff to oversee the removal and storage of the top soil, with a complete plan for restoration, and when the mining is done, it's put back in such a way that it becomes a park or a golf course or something beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The irony, of course, is that a lot of "green" technologies such as electric car batteries and solar panels depend on large quantities of rare earth metals that are often strip mined in countries like India and China that have loose -- or even non-existent-- environmental regulations.
    And when they are used up, they end up in land fills, poisoning the environment even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    We have a number of strip-mined areas around Texas that you'd never know were ever strip-mined. They even have environmentalists on staff to oversee the removal and storage of the top soil, with a complete plan for restoration, and when the mining is done, it's put back in such a way that it becomes a park or a golf course or something beautiful.
    Yeah, They make a bigger mess of mountains just putting in roads back in Appalachia. They will cut right through mountains and hills with dynamite and cut switchbacks into mountains too large to blow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The irony, of course, is that a lot of "green" technologies such as electric car batteries and solar panels depend on large quantities of rare earth metals that are often strip mined in countries like India and China that have loose -- or even non-existent-- environmental regulations.
    From what I recall, even the manufacturing process for such produces an inordinate amount of hazardous waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    From what I recall, even the manufacturing process for such produces an inordinate amount of hazardous waste.
    Interesting. Do you have a link or anything?
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