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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    So, if they are preaching the necessity for drastic measures the rest of us must make, do you think it's a good idea for them to....

    A) take a private Jet to a resort in Italy to celebrate her birthday?
    2) for her to take a private jet to New York to go shopping?

    Would you defend those actions?
    The behavior of some does not invalidate the general consensus that global warming is an undeniable fact according the vast majority of climate scientists.

    https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warmin...factsheet.html

    Substantive action is required sooner rather than later as per the Paris agreement and a significant number of US States (despite Trump’s denial of the facts and withdrawal from the Paris Agreement).
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    The behavior of some does not invalidate the general consensus that global warming is an undeniable fact according the vast majority of climate scientists.
    I never said it did, genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassmoron View Post
    The behavior of some does not invalidate the general consensus that global warming is an undeniable fact according the vast majority of climate scientists.

    https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warmin...factsheet.html

    Substantive action is required sooner rather than later as per the Paris agreement and a significant number of US States (despite Trump’s denial of the facts and withdrawal from the Paris Agreement).


    Even the countries who have signed on to the Paris Agreement don't believe their own hype. The only reason they're mad at Trump for pulling out is because he bolted shut the door of our treasury and told them to go mooch off of somebody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post


    Even the countries who have signed on to the Paris Agreement don't believe their own hype. The only reason they're mad at Trump for pulling out is because he bolted shut the door of our treasury and told them to go mooch off of somebody else.
    That would be an idea out of a fantasy book or web site, it does not reflect reality, nor does it reflect well on the high level of intelligence you clearly possess. The reality is that the US is the second largest contributor of CO2. And we are the largest by 50% in terms or per capita CO2. The US withdrawing from the Paris agreement is a significant hit on its potential to be effective. China- the largest contributor, has remained 'in'. Russia has said it 'will sign by the end of 2019', but I would guess the US position is not helping that possibility.

    Getting the largest emitters on board is critical to its potential for success. The loss of the US is significant not for the reason you cite above, but because we need to get all three superpowers on board for it to work, and as long as the US is 'out', the other two have reason to believe it puts them at a disadvantage to be 'in'. Not to mention the fact that our acceptance or rejection of any global initiative has a major influence on its potential success and adoption by lessor powers.

    'with great power comes great responsibility'.

    Unfortunately, the current administration and its support base don't understand that concept.

    We are a world leader, and we have a responsibility not just to ourselves to be a positive influence in the world. We have the majority of the world's wealth and are still the no. 1 military power in the world. We can't just think about what is good for 'us'.

    Especially those of us that proclaim that we follow Christ. Christ had some of His hardest words for the rich and those that take advantage of the poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I never said it did, genius.
    Tassman is - in fact - one of the more intelligent contributors to this website and to these conversations. You would be better off to research the points he makes than to dismiss them with sarcasm.

    Jim
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Tassman is - in fact - one of the more intelligent contributors to this website and to these conversations. You would be better off to research the points he makes than to dismiss them with sarcasm.

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    Let him address what I actually said, Jim. You too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    The reality is that the US is the second largest contributor of CO2.
    The reality is that CO2 is a trace gas and has little if any impact on global temperatures.

    In general, does CO2 correlate with temperature in climate history?

    The answer is often yes on “medium” timescales, but no on “short” timescales and also no on the very longest timescales of all. If one looks at all three timescales, overall observations are consistent with temperature rise causing the oceans to release part of their dissolved CO2 after substantial lag time, yet not consistent with CO2 being the primary driver of climate.

    Over the past few hundred thousand years of ice core data, a “medium” time scale in this sense, CO2 superficially appears to change in step with temperature...

    Yet, what about a closer look at a “short” time scale, the past few thousand years instead? [...] A lack of correlation between temperatures (in the above from a Greenland ice core) and atmospheric CO2 becomes very apparent at that timescale and level of detail.

    ...

    As can be seen, there was major decline in temperatures from the 1930s to the 1960s. CO2 emissions went up constantly meanwhile, in utter lack of correlation not fitting the theory of CO2 being the primary climate driver. What does fit for more correlation there is solar activity, both solar irradiance and the solar-driven interplanetary magnetic field affecting. [...] Even on a time scale of a century, CO2 trends do not correlate with temperature well...

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/...n-et-al-paper/
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Tassman is - in fact - one of the more intelligent contributors to this website and to these conversations.
    Okay, this has to be sarcasm.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Okay, this has to be sarcasm.
    No, just a clear case of "makes points I agree with" = "intelligent".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The reality is that CO2 is a trace gas and has little if any impact on global temperatures.

    In general, does CO2 correlate with temperature in climate history?

    The answer is often yes on “medium” timescales, but no on “short” timescales and also no on the very longest timescales of all. If one looks at all three timescales, overall observations are consistent with temperature rise causing the oceans to release part of their dissolved CO2 after substantial lag time, yet not consistent with CO2 being the primary driver of climate.

    Over the past few hundred thousand years of ice core data, a “medium” time scale in this sense, CO2 superficially appears to change in step with temperature...

    Yet, what about a closer look at a “short” time scale, the past few thousand years instead? [...] A lack of correlation between temperatures (in the above from a Greenland ice core) and atmospheric CO2 becomes very apparent at that timescale and level of detail.

    ...

    As can be seen, there was major decline in temperatures from the 1930s to the 1960s. CO2 emissions went up constantly meanwhile, in utter lack of correlation not fitting the theory of CO2 being the primary climate driver. What does fit for more correlation there is solar activity, both solar irradiance and the solar-driven interplanetary magnetic field affecting. [...] Even on a time scale of a century, CO2 trends do not correlate with temperature well...

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/...n-et-al-paper/
    This is just wrong.

    Temperature-change-and-carbon-dioxide-change-measured-from-the-EPICA-Dome-C-ice-core-in-Antarcti.jpg

    from

    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-war...erature-change

    similar data can be found

    https://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_400k_yrs.html

    The other thing to keep in mind is that we have surpassed CO2 levels at any time in the last 3 million years.


    Jim
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    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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