Will The Global Warming Hysterics Never Tire Of Being Wrong?

[Cow Poke]

Like others here, I am bewildered by your fervid defense of hypocrisy.

Quite honestly baffling.

[Sparko]

Yes, that is true. I am not debating that. If you don't have any way to pull CO2 back out of the atmosphere, then that would be a different scenario.

We don't have a way to pull out as much as we are putting in, so my point was that carbon credits are a joke. IF the situation is as bad as the scaremongers say it is. Until we can reach a balance, we need to be reducing all we can, not finding ways to "excuse" our pollution by trading what other people are doing. The overall net effect of using carbon credits is just slowing down how fast we are killing ourselves. Our goal should be to stop killing ourselves, right?

I see them advocating for fighting climate change and asking all of us - including themselves - to make changes in the way we do things so that it helps or is consistent with that goal. If they take a trip, but pay to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere by as much as or more than what they have created, then they are changing their way of doing things so it is consistent with that goal.

Jim

You may see it that way, but many other people don't. That is what we are saying. The perception is that they are hypocrites who are promoting "do as I say, not as I do" and the end result is that they have chopped their message off at the knees. They lose credibility and people mock them and come to the conclusion that the problem must not be as dire as they make it out to be.

If their goal is to convince people that global warming is real and an imminent danger, they are not doing their job because people who already doubt that global warming is a thing, just look at their apparent hypocrisy and say "see? we told you it was all made up!"

[Sparko]

Indeed. Lowering the levels is a far more difficult problem. And the truth is those complaining about the royals just find them a convenient distraction from the problem, which is the rise in co2 which is driving temeratures up. A rich person's potential hypocrisy is mostly meaningless in terms of the actual problem and its solution.

Jim

But we are not even stopping the INCREASE at this moment, not even with carbon credits. The end result is we are still putting out more CO2 than the earth can handle. We want a balance. We don't have that. And as long as you excuse the rich people's hypocrisy, you have no right to tell anyone else that they have to do something to fix the problem. Because MY carbon footprint is way lower than Al Gores. Even with me being completely wasteful and driving a gas car or burning coal in my furnace.

[Cow Poke]

But we are not even stopping the INCREASE at this moment, not even with carbon credits. The end result is we are still putting out more CO2 than the earth can handle. We want a balance. We don't have that. And as long as you excuse the rich people's hypocrisy, you have no right to tell anyone else that they have to do something to fix the problem. Because MY carbon footprint is way lower than Al Gores. Even with me being completely wasteful and driving a gas car or burning coal in my furnace.

It amazes me that, with the INCREDIBLY DIRE CIRCUMSTANCES that the climate activists are preaching, they seem content to have a "carbon neutral" goal. If the Royals want to jet their little butts to happy little vacations with other rich and famous people, then they should SHUT THE HECK UP about telling me what kind of life to live.

It absolutely baffles me that Jim defends that crap.

[Mountain Man]

Let's all eat a box of donuts and then offset it with a jog around the block while lecturing others to practice moderation. There's nothing hypocritical about that, right? Right?

[JimL]

But we are not even stopping the INCREASE at this moment, not even with carbon credits. The end result is we are still putting out more CO2 than the earth can handle. We want a balance. We don't have that. And as long as you excuse the rich people's hypocrisy, you have no right to tell anyone else that they have to do something to fix the problem. Because MY carbon footprint is way lower than Al Gores. Even with me being completely wasteful and driving a gas car or burning coal in my furnace.

Sparko, your ilk has more excuses than Carter has liver pills.

[Sparko]

It amazes me that, with the INCREDIBLY DIRE CIRCUMSTANCES that the climate activists are preaching, they seem content to have a "carbon neutral" goal. If the Royals want to jet their little butts to happy little vacations with other rich and famous people, then they should SHUT THE HECK UP about telling me what kind of life to live.

It absolutely baffles me that Jim defends that crap.

Yeah I don't get it. They are saying we have to change the way we live unless we want the world to end in 20 years (or 12, or whatever the number is now) but it's OK for them to live the way they are used to because they can "pay" to neutralize their pollution. Even if true, it sends the wrong message, IF the world is in as much danger as they claim. How can they tell me to change with a straight face while they don't?

[Sparko]

Sparko, your ilk has more excuses than Carter has liver pills.

Was that your lame yankee attempt at some southern sounding saying?

[Cow Poke]

Let's all eat a box of donuts and then offset it with a jog around the block while lecturing others to practice moderation. There's nothing hypocritical about that, right? Right?

OR..... all things in BALANCE!!!

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[Cow Poke]

Was that your lame yankee attempt at some southern sounding saying?

And it's actually Carter's - as in a company.

[Sparko]

And it's actually Carter's - as in a company.

He needs to add in some belt buckles and snake bellies if he wants to sound southern!

[Mountain Man]

Yeah I don't get it. They are saying we have to change the way we live unless we want the world to end in 20 years (or 12, or whatever the number is now) but it's OK for them to live the way they are used to because they can "pay" to neutralize their pollution. Even if true, it sends the wrong message, IF the world is in as much danger as they claim. How can they tell me to change with a straight face while they don't?

Here's the thing, it's not just the rich and famous. Frankly, I don't see anybody acting like they really believe that man's actions can have a significant impact on global temperatures, or that we're in any kind of imminent danger. It's just lip service, which leads me to the reasonable conclusion that they're not any more convinced than the rest of us, which I think is significant.

[Cow Poke]

Here's the thing, it's not just the rich and famous. Frankly, I don't see anybody acting like they really believe that man's actions can have a significant impact on global temperatures, or that we're in any kind of imminent danger. It's just lip service, which leads me to the reasonable conclusion that they're not any more convinced than the rest of us, which I think is significant.

Because preaching climate change is just a means to an end - it's not what they're actually interested in 'solving'.

[One Bad Pig]

Here's the thing, it's not just the rich and famous. Frankly, I don't see anybody acting like they really believe that man's actions can have a significant impact on global temperatures. It's just like service, which leads me to the reasonable conclusion that they're not any more convinced than the rest of us, which I think is significant.

There are certainly those who practice what they preach. People who have been buying electric cars have mostly been doing it for that reason, because they're mostly less convenient than gas vehicles at the moment.

[seer]

Because preaching climate change is just a means to an end - it's not what they're actually interested in 'solving'.

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