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Will The Global Warming Hysterics Never Tire Of Being Wrong?
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“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostSo - you and CP's mocking posts are the mocking of the ignorant.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOh, come on, Jim, I've never thought of you as ignorant!
That was my point. Sorry you did not understand.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Doing their part to solve climate change.
A voyage on Rising Sun is summer’s "most coveted" vacation for A-listers with Oprah Winfrey, Chris Rock, Steven Spielberg, Leonardo DiCaprio and even Jeff Bezos popping up on the mogul’s Instagram feed.
one_time_use_only-yacht-alamy_h_2019.jpgAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostDoing their part to solve climate change.
A voyage on Rising Sun is summer’s "most coveted" vacation for A-listers with Oprah Winfrey, Chris Rock, Steven Spielberg, Leonardo DiCaprio and even Jeff Bezos popping up on the mogul’s Instagram feed.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostIgnorance is not a lack of intelligence, it is a lack of knowledge. Both of you are intelligent, but in the arena of global warming, both of you are callously repeatingvthe arguments of the ignorant rather than something more informed, and that is beneath both of you.
That was my point. Sorry you did not understand.
JimThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDiCaprio in particular loves to party on mega-yachts that consume massive amounts of fossil fuel -- several times more in an hour than what the average American uses in their car each year -- while pontificating on how we need to drastically cut back on useThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI suppose it depends on what you mean by "in service for many decades". If you're talking "many decades at a significantly reduced charge capacity" then you would be correct.
To give you an idea, Tesla warranties their batteries for 8-years but stipulates that reduced charge capacity as a result of normal use is not covered. As far as they're concerned, up to 30% reduced capacity is acceptable within the warranty period.
(https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-batt...-1-million-km/)
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostThat's the idea. After they've been of service in a car, they're still fairly good and can be used for other purposes, like replacing expensive peaker plants and other grid storage solutions.
Its a bit better than that, for most Tesla cars they have a range of 90% of their original range after 250000 miles. This is based upon crowdsourced data from multiple Tesla owners.
(https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-batt...-1-million-km/)
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostIf you actually believe in this then you'd BETTER pay attention to 'pure politics' - because it's a political, not a scientific, decision as to whether a nation-state - or all of them - will act.
Originally posted by Teallaura View Post(In response to my posts on milankovich cycles) So, why don't they keep going?
In December 1500 people will lose their jobs - 83% of them Navajo. Their reservation will take a tremendous economic hit. But it's okay, because one isolated coal plant that has never failed to meet its environmental requirements will be shut down and ... what?
Teal this is coming a bit out of left-field, I don't know much if anything about local conditions where you're at. As I state a little bit later (update: And I see you've quoted it later), I'm a moderate when it comes to the severity of climate changes. I believe they have the potential to be disruptive both to the biodiversity and conservation efforts, but also to the economy. I believe that actions should be taken that will be preventive. The whole calculus of what we should be doing is based around that.
I don't believe in a solution that's the same for everyone, everywhere. For instance, in previous climate threads, I've even advocated for the poorest countries to be allowed to use coal power to bootstrap their economies and improve their living conditions.
As for the particular case of that plant, I don't know the particulars, or what policy was implemented. So it's difficult to discuss it. Plants that close is not something unique to changes in laws regarding pollution. Over a decade ago Germany pulled a car manufacturing plant out of Denmark. A whole town and city had grown up around that one manufacturing plant. After it closed it left a huge community without jobs, and now it's one of the places in Denmark with the highest rate of unemployment.
It's hard to blame that one on Socialism though.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYour data is out of date - Tesla is busily defending lawsuits over its 'update' that reduced battery efficiency to keep them from catching fire.
Yes, really.
Why is that bad? That seems very responsible, and in no way invalidates the graf that I sent which was specifically about the actual degradation of the physical battery, not its software settings.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostPerhaps, but I am not talking to everyday people on TheologyWeb. I consider you all smarter than average; Able to the separate feelings and emotions, from rational arguments.
You mean why isn't there a runaway global warming? That's because there are also multiples of other negative feedback cycles. I don't know enough about the later stages of Milankovich cycles. I was merely responding to the claim that temperature change precedes CO2 change, which I think isn't completely true, and when its true it's irrelevant to our current situation.
Teal this is coming a bit out of left-field, I don't know much if anything about local conditions where you're at. As I state a little bit later (update: And I see you've quoted it later), I'm a moderate when it comes to the severity of climate changes. I believe they have the potential to be disruptive both to the biodiversity and conservation efforts, but also to the economy. I believe that actions should be taken that will be preventive. The whole calculus of what we should be doing is based around that.
I don't believe in a solution that's the same for everyone, everywhere. For instance, in previous climate threads, I've even advocated for the poorest countries to be allowed to use coal power to bootstrap their economies and improve their living conditions.
As for the particular case of that plant, I don't know the particulars, or what policy was implemented. So it's difficult to discuss it. Plants that close is not something unique to changes in laws regarding pollution. Over a decade ago Germany pulled a car manufacturing plant out of Denmark. A whole town and city had grown up around that one manufacturing plant. After it closed it left a huge community without jobs, and now it's one of the places in Denmark with the highest rate of unemployment.
It's hard to blame that one on Socialism though."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI looked it up, but it seems like it involves a small number of Tesla cars that had defective batteries. So instead of recalling them, an over-the-air update limited the charge ceiling for those cars.
Why is that bad? That seems very responsible, and in no way invalidates the graf that I sent which was specifically about the actual degradation of the physical battery, not its software settings.
Why it is bad - the car was bought under the understanding it would perform within a set range - and it can't do that anymore. Kind of the reverse of a warranty but if the product is deliberately tampered with so that it no longer performs as the customer expected, that's criminal mischief at the very least but probably looking at an attempt to defraud - the price was based on the car's total characteristics which include battery performance.
Tesla tried to avoid an expensive recall with a bandaid - yeah, this is REALLY not okay!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think you need to have your doc dial down your meds about 3 notches.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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