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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    So, besides situational awareness, any other tips too avoid being a damsel in distress? Ooh! If a bad guy tries to force you into a car, do everything in your power to not go in there. Things won't end well!
    Last I heard, the FBI stats for a woman surviving an abduction was right at 2%. So, yeah, fight hard. "Hard places to Soft places" -- knees, elbows, forehead - to face, shins, groin... this is one case that warrants fighting dirty - as dirty as you need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Last I heard, the FBI stats for a woman surviving an abduction was right at 2%. So, yeah, fight hard. "Hard places to Soft places" -- knees, elbows, forehead - to face, shins, groin... this is one case that warrants fighting dirty - as dirty as you need to.
    One of the tips I always shared was the way you carried your keys to your car.... ALWAYS have the keys out before you approach the car, don't ever be in a situation where you have to stand there and dig in your purse or pockets....

    And, hard to describe without showing - your ignition key (or fob) should be in your thumb/index grip ready to use, and the rest of your keys should come out from between your fingers, so you have like a weapon... like below, except the car key needs to be usable.

    car-keys-for-self-defense-weapon.jpg

    scratch eyes, face, arms..... it's not at all unusual for the police to get the attacker's DNA from your keys used in such a manner. Hopefully, while you're alive because you escaped, but even if you don't survive. Be vicious - fight like your life depends on it. Because it just might.

    Another idea - if he's trying to abduct you in YOUR car, throw the keys as far as you can throw them - in the bushes, across the parking lot...
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    As you're walking to your car, or to the store, or whatever, look around and ask yourself, "OK, what would I do if somebody jumped out of that bush over there", and stuff like that. NOT to live in fear, but just be aware of the possibilities, and there might be a different approach to the front door that doesn't have you passing by 'hiding places'. Try to remain in clear sight of other people.

    If you're even a little nervous, and there's nobody available to walk you to your car, call a friend and say, "hey, I'm going to be walking to my car, and I just wanted somebody to know where I am...." but do NOT look distracted, keep the "situational awareness" going.

    One of the ladies who attended my class told me she was doing that with her husband - she was walking to the car, talking to him, and saw some guys standing by a car the next row over.... she said, "Well, YES officer, I'm almost to my car now, so there's really no hurry....." - her husband caught on and asked "do I need to call 911?" - and she said, "no, officer, I have my gun in my purse and I know how to use it..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    One of the tips I always shared was the way you carried your keys to your car.... ALWAYS have the keys out before you approach the car, don't ever be in a situation where you have to stand there and dig in your purse or pockets....

    And, hard to describe without showing - your ignition key (or fob) should be in your thumb/index grip ready to use, and the rest of your keys should come out from between your fingers, so you have like a weapon... like below, except the car key needs to be usable.

    car-keys-for-self-defense-weapon.jpg

    scratch eyes, face, arms..... it's not at all unusual for the police to get the attacker's DNA from your keys used in such a manner. Hopefully, while you're alive because you escaped, but even if you don't survive. Be vicious - fight like your life depends on it. Because it just might.

    Another idea - if he's trying to abduct you in YOUR car, throw the keys as far as you can throw them - in the bushes, across the parking lot...
    Lots of car keys these days are electronic.
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    OK, so quick story.....

    Granny's kids were nervous about her being out and about alone so much, particularly at night, so they bought her a handgun for her purse, and paid for classes for her to learn how to use it.

    One night, coming out of the mall, she saw some teenage boys fooling around with the radio in her car, so she took a deep breath, summoned her courage, pulled her gun out of her purse, and confronted them yelling at the top of her voice "YOU GET OUT OF THERE RIGHT NOW OR I WILL BLOW YOUR FREAKIN HEADS OFF" and waving the gun around.... They fled, and she was so proud of herself.

    Then she got extremely embarrassed when she noticed it wasn't her car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Lots of car keys these days are electronic.
    Yup - I only have ONE actual key that I carry - everything else is a fob or iPhone app or touch-key.

    Hence....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    And, hard to describe without showing - your ignition key (or fob) ...
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    Shouldn't guns be in holsters and not in purses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    Shouldn't guns be in holsters and not in purses?
    Some purses are actually designed to be holsters!

    gun purse.jpg gal-mer.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Some purses are actually designed to be holsters!

    gun purse.jpg gal-mer.jpg
    Yup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    OK, so quick story.....

    Granny's kids were nervous about her being out and about alone so much, particularly at night, so they bought her a handgun for her purse, and paid for classes for her to learn how to use it.

    One night, coming out of the mall, she saw some teenage boys fooling around with the radio in her car, so she took a deep breath, summoned her courage, pulled her gun out of her purse, and confronted them yelling at the top of her voice "YOU GET OUT OF THERE RIGHT NOW OR I WILL BLOW YOUR FREAKIN HEADS OFF" and waving the gun around.... They fled, and she was so proud of herself.

    Then she got extremely embarrassed when she noticed it wasn't her car.
    That story usually finishes with her going to report what happened at the police station. After she told the desk sergeant what happened he started to chuckle. Perplexed she asked him what he thought was so funny. At that point he points to a bench over along the wall and said, "These boys just came in to report that they were car jacked by a little old lady."

    I'm always still in trouble again

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