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Originally posted by Adrift View PostNow, see, if you were watching The Evil Dead, Cannibal Holocaust, and Scanners back in the 80s early 90s like I was you would've already been done desensitized.
You do make a good point. My parents can now watch TV series that they would have never given a chance even 5 years ago. It started with Blacklist, then I got them on Prison Break and 24 (which was really intense for my mom). Now they're watching Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul like it's nothing.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostYou know what's strange, I can watch a guy's head explode like that famous scene in Scanners, and it doesn't effect me at all. I see someone giving blood on the news, and I start feeling faint and have to look away. It's very odd.
But even if someone is grossed out by the REAL thing, it's too late if they have been desensitized by the fake thing and go out on a shooting spree. Or they are just too far gone to care.
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Scot McKnight's blog has a long list of potential factors to blame, including movies, music, hockey, NASCAR, paintball, football, video games, and hunting. But note that he isn't individually blaming any of them; he says they are symptomatic of a culture of violence. I don't think that observation in itself can be dismissed, even if one wants to quibble with some of the details. I think "hunting for Bambi" should have been left off the list, personally.
(I'm kind of surprised to hear him come out against sports like that because he's one of the most outspoken sports fans in the Christian blogosphere and has talked about football on his blog, though his true love is baseball, which isn't mentioned.)
I'm not interested in discussing his gun control rant; that topic has been discussed to death elsewhere on here.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesusc...me-for-change/"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhat gun advertising?
And I think it has more to do with first person shooter video games. You can't tell me that playing those games doesn't desensitize kids to violence and murder and even make it fun.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
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Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI wonder if there's some connection to the sorts of people that are attracted to those games in the first place. I've never been a gamer, and on the rare occasions I've played combat games, I've been shooting robots, spaceships, or monsters, not humans.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI wonder if there's some connection to the sorts of people that are attracted to those games in the first place. I've never been a gamer, and on the rare occasions I've played combat games, I've been shooting robots, spaceships, or monsters, not humans.
Pew didn't say what percentage of kids play shooter games, but I'm sure it's higher. It said over 80% of kids play video games, and the most popular video game among kids (Fortnite) is a shooter game..."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostProblem is it's a really high percentage of the population. The majority of adults do game, and 42% of those are into shooter games: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...d-video-games/
Pew didn't say what percentage of kids play shooter games, but I'm sure it's higher. It said over 80% of kids play video games, and the most popular video game among kids (Fortnite) is a shooter game...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI feel so left out."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI play chess online and a puzzle game on my phone so I'm probably technically considered a gamer, but otherwise, I'm with youThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post...
This is purely anecdotal, of course, but I've been playing violent video games of one form or another for close to four-decades. I've watched countless violent movies and television shows. And yet I'm not a violent person, I avoid conflict, and when I see someone get hurt in real life, I cringe, feel badly for them, and do what I can to help them. This, I think, is typical for a mentally healthy person. We are capable of distinguishing between fantasy violence in entertainment, and real violence.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI love the movie "Kingsmen" -- especially the church massacre scene. I get such laffs out of that. But I won't watch boxing or other full-contact "striking" sports. I have a much different reaction internally when I know the violence I'm seeing is "real."
ETA: As opposed, for example, to scantily clad morbidly obese men dancing with one another until one of them falls outside a circle.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI thought I was the only person who thought watching boxing was yuk. A "sport" where the INTENT is to knock the daylights out of your opponent just sounds.... barbaric.
ETA: As opposed, for example, to scantily clad morbidly obese men dancing with one another until one of them falls outside a circle.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postand yet if I saw that same thing 20-30years ago I would have been sickened. Now I am not. desensitized. We all are.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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