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    Anyone Do a Tour to Israel?

    I'm looking to do a tour of Israel in 2020, and taking my father with me. Never been on a guided tour there before, and it'll be part pilgrimage, part learning experience, part vacation type thing. I think I'd like to do one with a good Bible scholar associated with it, but I can't seem to find any that are available currently.

    Looks like Craig Evans is doing a cruise tour (with Jerry Jenkins of the Left Behind books of all things). I'd LOVE to take a tour with Evans (not so much Jenkins), as he's one of my NT scholar heroes, but it's a cruise, and I really don't want to do a cruise.

    Not really a scholar, but the apologist Frank Turek is doing a tour, but it looks like it's booked out. Not sure I'd be that thrilled taking a tour with Turek anyhow (no offence, just not really my cup of tea).

    Those are both with a company called Living Passages. Another company called Morning Star works with Dallas Theological Seminary and Moody Bible Institute, so that sounds promising. But I don't know. I don't want to go on a tour with some super celebrity in the pop Christian world where I'll get lost in the shuffle of a dozen buses loaded with tourists. Have you guys taken a tour of Israel, and if so how did it go? Any recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    I'm looking to do a tour of Israel in 2020, and taking my father with me. Never been on a guided tour there before, and it'll be part pilgrimage, part learning experience, part vacation type thing. I think I'd like to do one with a good Bible scholar associated with it, but I can't seem to find any that are available currently.

    Looks like Craig Evans is doing a cruise tour (with Jerry Jenkins of the Left Behind books of all things). I'd LOVE to take a tour with Evans (not so much Jenkins), as he's one of my NT scholar heroes, but it's a cruise, and I really don't want to do a cruise.

    Not really a scholar, but the apologist Frank Turek is doing a tour, but it looks like it's booked out. Not sure I'd be that thrilled taking a tour with Turek anyhow (no offence, just not really my cup of tea).

    Those are both with a company called Living Passages. Another company called Morning Star works with Dallas Theological Seminary and Moody Bible Institute, so that sounds promising. But I don't know. I don't want to go on a tour with some super celebrity in the pop Christian world where I'll get lost in the shuffle of a dozen buses loaded with tourists. Have you guys taken a tour of Israel, and if so how did it go? Any recommendations?
    I did a tour of Israel a few years ago with a group from my diocese. It was awesome, and I'd love to be able to go back for another round someday; I went before the recent restoration work done on the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    I did a tour of Israel a few years ago with a group from my diocese. It was awesome, and I'd love to be able to go back for another round someday; I went before the recent restoration work done on the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.
    How big was the group when you got there? Was there much confusion after you got off your plane and found your group? What time of year did you go, and what was the weather like?

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    IIRC the prodder of bovines has gone to Israel at least once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    I'm looking to do a tour of Israel in 2020, and taking my father with me. Never been on a guided tour there before, and it'll be part pilgrimage, part learning experience, part vacation type thing. I think I'd like to do one with a good Bible scholar associated with it, but I can't seem to find any that are available currently.

    Looks like Craig Evans is doing a cruise tour (with Jerry Jenkins of the Left Behind books of all things). I'd LOVE to take a tour with Evans (not so much Jenkins), as he's one of my NT scholar heroes, but it's a cruise, and I really don't want to do a cruise.

    Not really a scholar, but the apologist Frank Turek is doing a tour, but it looks like it's booked out. Not sure I'd be that thrilled taking a tour with Turek anyhow (no offence, just not really my cup of tea).

    Those are both with a company called Living Passages. Another company called Morning Star works with Dallas Theological Seminary and Moody Bible Institute, so that sounds promising. But I don't know. I don't want to go on a tour with some super celebrity in the pop Christian world where I'll get lost in the shuffle of a dozen buses loaded with tourists. Have you guys taken a tour of Israel, and if so how did it go? Any recommendations?
    I went with some friends and under the care of Gate1Travel. I don't recommend them. Been another time with a church group.

    I NOW have a line on HopeForIsreael tour with my friend, a Messianic Jew.... lemme round up some details.

    One of my tours was led by a young woman who had been a tank commander trainer with the IDF - THAT was pretty interesting, because she was a non-religious Jew who had really done her homework on what Christians want to know about the Holy Land.

    The last time, we went in October, and the weather was fantastic. The trip was very orderly, and we had some older folks with us who managed to keep up, because the pace was not very hectic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I went with some friends and under the care of Gate1Travel. I don't recommend them. Been another time with a church group.

    I NOW have a line on HopeForIsreael tour with my friend, a Messianic Jew.... lemme round up some details.

    One of my tours was led by a young woman who had been a tank commander trainer with the IDF - THAT was pretty interesting, because she was a non-religious Jew who had really done her homework on what Christians want to know about the Holy Land.

    The last time, we went in October, and the weather was fantastic. The trip was very orderly, and we had some older folks with us who managed to keep up, because the pace was not very hectic.
    Ok, thank you. How big are he standard tour groups that you've gone with. Also, was the church group your own? I asked Morning Star Tours about their upcoming trips. They have a few, but there's one with a church group from the same state as me in March that runs for about 11 days. It's being led by Dr. Charlie Dyer who I'm not familiar with, but apparently he teaches at Moody, and co-hosts a radio program called The Land and the Book, which I'm unfamiliar with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    How big was the group when you got there? Was there much confusion after you got off your plane and found your group? What time of year did you go, and what was the weather like?
    We met in Pittsburgh Airport, and flew as a group from there. When I signed up, I didn't know anyone else who was going, though it turned out another guy from my parish was along too. I went in early May; the weather was quite warm and dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    Ok, thank you. How big are he standard tour groups that you've gone with.
    25 people - and they use those wireless comms like you have a receiver on a lanyard around your neck, and earphones, and the guide has a headset and a transmitter.... she explains everything as you go along, and keeps an eye on the "last guy", making sure the group stays together.

    Also, was the church group your own?
    There were 6 people from my Church, and we met up with the rest of the tour group at Tel Aviv - Ben Gurion Airport. It was quite well organized, then we took a charter bus to Jerusalem where we spent our first two nights.

    I asked Morning Star Tours about their upcoming trips. They have a few, but there's one with a church group from the same state as me in March that runs for about 11 days. It's being led by Dr. Charlie Dyer who I'm not familiar with, but apparently he teaches at Moody, and co-hosts a radio program called The Land and the Book, which I'm unfamiliar with.
    Some of the more commercial tours have too many stops at "tourist attractions" like the Diamond exchange or places where they make all kinds of artifacts out of olive tree - hoping you'll spend money, and no doubt the tour operator gets a percentage.

    You church tours will have a lot less of that.


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    My best friend is good friends with the director of Hope For Israel! I can get you in touch with him if you want, Adrift.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    OBP - did you St Pete's house - that big kinda UFO thing built over it?
    Yeah, the Catholics rebuilt a lot of their churches in Israel in the late 19th century, and they tend to be odd like that. I did my best to get a decent picture of the house over which it was built. Their church at Gesthemane was probably the least objectionable.
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