Democrats pushing racism

[Charles]

I was hoping to stay on track on the discussion but you seemed to have lost sense of what we are discussing. What brought you to this thread if you don't understand the issue?

I was pointing out that what you said was not a fair description of reality but a straw man. You or the reader might not understand the issue if I do not point that out. Pointing to such errors is never off topic.

[mikewhitney]

I was pointing out that what you said was not a fair description of reality but a straw man. You or the reader might not understand the issue if I do not point that out. Pointing to such errors is never off topic.

I have not figured out your logic yet. Maybe something better than "straw man" would tell us what is on your mind.

[Mountain Man]

I have not figured out your logic yet. Maybe something better than "straw man" would tell us what is on your mind.

I told you, the boy is a troll. It's generally best to simply ignore him.

[oxmixmudd]

I don't think anything that Trump has said incites hatred except for those people who already have hatred toward people, including hatred toward Republicans. The Dems lost the presidency and have nothing but hatred. There is no real excuse to project this upon Trump. The Dems are either fragile people or are willfully promulgating racism and promoting division.

Are you actually saying "sure the Dems are promoting racism and division but this is excusable behavior on their part?"

If you can look at what has happened at Trump rallies in terms of inciting direct hatred of media reporters and people that have crossed words with Trump, then you clearly simply don't understand what inciting hatred is.


Jim

[oxmixmudd]

I'm sure it'll go no better than the group that surrounded Mitch McConnell's house a couple days ago, while he's recovering from a broken shoulder, screaming for him to come outside while others yelled how they "just stab the [ATTACH=CONFIG]38912[/ATTACH] in the heart" or held signs like that below

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That is bad. No doubt about it. Can you say the same of Trump supporters that go after others in a similar manner? Say the Mitch McConnell supporters that held a cutout of Cortez:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...oping-n1039531

And surely you understand what you've posted is in response to what is shown in the link above?

I'll stand by my characterization of Trump as a catalyst for division, hatred, and chaos. He feeds off of it and stokes it. Hatred and fear breed hatred and fear, and it will infect and overcome both sides unless he stops - which he simply will not.

We need and deserve better than this.


Jim

[oxmixmudd]

He's a troll.

Charles is not a Troll.


Jim

[Mountain Man]

Charles is not a Troll.

Is too!

[Cow Poke]

That is bad. No doubt about it. Can you say the same of Trump supporters that go after others in a similar manner?

Absolutely.

[seanD]

That is bad. No doubt about it. Can you say the same of Trump supporters that go after others in a similar manner? Say the Mitch McConnell supporters that held a cutout of Cortez:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...oping-n1039531

And surely you understand what you've posted is in response to what is shown in the link above?

I'll stand by my characterization of Trump as a catalyst for division, hatred, and chaos. He feeds off of it and stokes it. Hatred and fear breed hatred and fear, and it will infect and overcome both sides unless he stops - which he simply will not.

We need and deserve better than this.


Jim

Would you say the same thing about Obama? During Obama's seat, not only were there an unprecedented amount of mass shootings and not only did gun sales break record highs, but you had a number of sociopolitical movements and protests -- Tea Party, OWS, BLM. Other than the anti-war movements prior, I don't even remember that much sociopolitical ill sentiment under mad dog Bush.

[oxmixmudd]

Would you say the same thing about Obama? During Obama's seat, not only were there an unprecedented amount of mass shootings and not only did gun sales break record highs, but you had a number of sociopolitical movements and protests -- Tea Party, OWS, BLM. Other than the anti-war movements prior, I don't even remember that much sociopolitical ill sentiment under mad dog Bush.

I can honestly say I can NOT say the same thing about Obama. I'm not a fan of Obama, but I'd take him over Trump any day of the week.

Jim

[seanD]

I can honestly say I can NOT say the same thing about Obama. I'm not a fan of Obama, but I'd take him over Trump any day of the week.

Jim

Well, then people in here that accuse of TDS are correct, because you're not looking at things objectively. Hating Trump is one thing, I'm not crazy about the guy either, but you stating that Obama was less of a divisive president when there were clearly more movements and protests under Obama (from both political sides) than any other president I can remember is just your subjective view about Trump.

[Adrift]

Well, then people in here that accuse of TDS are correct, because you're not looking at things objectively. Hating Trump is one thing, I'm not crazy about the guy either, but you stating that Obama was less of a divisive president when there were clearly more movements and protests under Obama (from both political sides) than any other president I can remember is just your subjective view about Trump.

I guess you'll have to diagnose me with TDS as well, since I also agree that things were less divisive under Obama. In fact, I think that's so obvious I find it hard to understand how anyone can even make the claim.

[One Bad Pig]

I guess you'll have to diagnose me with TDS as well, since I also agree that things were less divisive under Obama. In fact, I think that's so obvious I find it hard to understand how anyone can even make the claim.

I'd have to agree that things are more divisive under Trump, but that division has come largely as a reaction to Trump (whereas Obama was often referred to as the "Divider in Chief").

[KingsGambit]

I'd have to agree that things are more divisive under Trump, but that division has come largely as a reaction to Trump (whereas Obama was often referred to as the "Divider in Chief").

Obama didn't constantly use social media to call political opponents names.

[Cow Poke]

Obama didn't constantly use social media to call political opponents names.

But he often weighed in publicly on matters before the facts were in, with a very prejudiced perspective. He very calmly made things worse, along with his wingman, Eric.