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    Boy Scouts Pedophilia Scandal

    Now, hundreds more men are claiming they were abused by men who do not appear in the published “Perversion Files.” “It’s the largest pedophile ring on earth,” Tim Kosnoff, one of the lawyers representing alleged victims, said during a press conference on Tuesday. “The numbers we’re talking about now dwarf what we’ve seen in the Catholic Church cases.”

    “The recipe is there for an abuser to take advantage of boys alone out in the woods at night, at their homes, at their apartments,” added another of the lawyers, Stewart Eisenberg. “Many of the boys have reported drugs and alcohol being given to them when they were minors. This abuse is baked into the culture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
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    Sad, just sad. I was a Cub Scout and Boy Scout in the 50s and 60s - The Scouts have made a lot of bad decisions of late, I think this will finally sink them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Sad, just sad. I was a Cub Scout and Boy Scout in the 50s and 60s - The Scouts have made a lot of bad decisions of late, I think this will finally sink them.
    There are several alternatives to the Scout program -- I pray that THEY are more vigilant about the problems associated with men and boys in such situations.

    It's really sad, because there was a time when it really meant something to be an Eagle Scout.
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    "Let's allow homosexuals into the Boy Scouts," they said. "What's the worst that could happen?" they said.

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    This doesn't surprise me at all. This isn't a recent thing either, I'm sure. I read an article years ago that pointed out that pedophilia in schools was far FAR higher than in the Catholic Church. And much of the same problem happened in schools as did the Church, they'd just move the offending teacher to a different district. It's just something that media doesn't report on for whatever reason, but it seems to be a huge issue in all sorts of places, and has been going on for forever. Speaking of RCC abuse of children, the other day I was watching a French film from 1972 called Le souffle au coeur (A Murmur of the Heart), and there's a scene where a priest makes an advance on a teenaged boy, and the film makes no real issue of it at all, as if to say "yeah, this happens all of the time, and everyone knows about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    "Let's allow homosexuals into the Boy Scouts," they said. "What's the worst that could happen?" they said.

    I believe all this stuff happened before then.
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    Most of those cases are very old.

    Having been in Boy Scouts in multiple troops, I can only speak for what I saw, which was going far out of the way to avoid even any appearance of problems. BSA observes a strict rule where no boy can be alone with any adult leader (unless that leader is his father), and my troop also avoided situations where older Scouts were camping with younger Scouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    This doesn't surprise me at all. This isn't a recent thing either, I'm sure. I read an article years ago that pointed out that pedophilia in schools was far FAR higher than in the Catholic Church. And much of the same problem happened in schools as did the Church, they'd just move the offending teacher to a different district. It's just something that media doesn't report on for whatever reason, but it seems to be a huge issue in all sorts of places, and has been going on for forever.
    I think the reason is fairly simple. The Catholic Church is very large and its churches regarding as interconnected (i.e. being part of the same organization).

    As for schools, we see a similar issue in terms of being distributed among different groups. Schools aren't ever thought of as the same organization--or perhaps it's more accurate to say that school boards are thought of as different organizations from each other (schools in the same district are more commonly thought of as being the same organization as each other, albeit perhaps not to the extent as Catholic churches are). So problems in one school district in this area don't get "added" with other school districts and are regarded as local affairs rather than national ones.

    A school in Chicago isn't considered part of the same organization as a school in Boston. But a Catholic parish in Chicago is considered to be the same organization as one in Boston. Heck, the Catholic Church goes outright international, with one Catholic parish in the US being the same organization as one in Japan.

    So when you have one big unified organization compared to a bunch of much smaller organizations, the former gets a whole lot more attention for something like abuse scandals even if its actual rates are actually lower.

    It's probably why the Southern Baptist Convention seems to be the only US church other than the Catholic Church in the US that gets real attention paid to it for sexual abuse: It's big enough for the total number of abuses to rise high enough to actually attract attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    This doesn't surprise me at all. This isn't a recent thing either, I'm sure. I read an article years ago that pointed out that pedophilia in schools was far FAR higher than in the Catholic Church. And much of the same problem happened in schools as did the Church, they'd just move the offending teacher to a different district. It's just something that media doesn't report on for whatever reason, but it seems to be a huge issue in all sorts of places, and has been going on for forever.
    That's always stuck in my craw - that it's nearly impossible to fire a school teacher. Years ago, the Reader's Digest had a series on "Why Johnny Can't Read", (and, subsequently, "Why Johnny STILL can't read") and a large part of that, if I remember correctly, was it was nearly impossible to fire bad teachers.

    Again, the National Education Agency doesn't educate anybody -- they are Jimmy Carter's gift to the Teachers' Unions.

    Speaking of RCC abuse of children, the other day I was watching a French film from 1972 called Le souffle au coeur (A Murmur of the Heart), and there's a scene where a priest makes an advance on a teenaged boy, and the film makes no real issue of it at all, as if to say "yeah, this happens all of the time, and everyone knows about it."
    Yeah, that's kinda sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    That's always stuck in my craw - that it's nearly impossible to fire a school teacher. Years ago, the Reader's Digest had a series on "Why Johnny Can't Read", (and, subsequently, "Why Johnny STILL can't read") and a large part of that, if I remember correctly, was it was nearly impossible to fire bad teachers.

    Again, the National Education Agency doesn't educate anybody -- they are Jimmy Carter's gift to the Teachers' Unions.
    That's not even a problem exclusive to 'Murica. Here in Canada, back when I was in school, there was a teacher in another High School that got busted sending inappropriate photos to a student and she was just transferred to another school.
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