World events and Escatology

[themuzicman]

Seeing as Iraq is the home of Babylon, which is apparantly where many of the end times events occur or originate, is the pending war, and the UN plan to take over and rebuild Iraq a part of the end times scenario. It seems a bit worriesome to me to have the UN own a country with such a large portion of the world's oil reserves.

Thoughts? Is there someone out there who could be the anti-Christ?

Michael

[efta777]

I would tell you what I think, but I'm assuming that you're probably addressing this primarily to the futurists out there, so I'll keep my big mouth shut.

[Hitch]

If you really think the Holy Spirit inspired the passages that form the basis of this belief why do you find it 'worrisome' to see God's word and will fulfilled?

Thoughts? Is there someone out there who could be the anti-Christ? Hmmmmm If you count up all the jews and muslims and hindus and bhuddist and fillintheblanks I d say there is no shorage of antichrists out there.

take care

Hitch

[David]

yes preterist can have no opinion about the future and future prophecies from scriptures because they look backwards and not forwards.

But in my p[omopm from scriptures.

Iraq is not Babylon the Great as that is America as her religion is materialism is pride and war....and she gets destroyed later by the AC... but not now. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjor...ofBabylon.html

Now she just brings the world to almost WW3 with her greed for oil, that brings all nations to the Peace Table or the Covenant of Daniel. For then there is 7 years until the return of Jesus in the clouds.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjor...ltimeline.html

David

[efta777]

David, just a quick question.
If the world is still around in 50 years and WWIII has not happened and America is not destroyed... Will you change your mind?

[David]

The real question Effta, is why do you think 'All things cntinue as they were' as the mockers to prophesy do.... and why do you think the Lord and his prophecy is null,and void.

And do answer why you don;t study and just post such hypothetical non faith non prophecy comments that violate Jesus words, that the spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus. And that we are not promised tommorrow and are responsible for our actions today to do as much as possible for the Lord and others today. Please answer

But if you don;t know science and what is happenning and current events and what is happenning and the escalation that is happenning as foretold by Daniel, then I can;t help you, and you should be asking yourself why you aren;t changing your mind in the here and now and in the near future.

Why be stubborn and wear such rosy non-prophetic unChristian glasses. Why degrade prophecy when you should be encouraging pople to study it rather than giving them a false peace.

Read the prophecies concerning this in Jeremiah....

For when they say Peace and Safety like you are saying, then sudden destruction cometh upon them.. Shameful shameful.....

David

[themuzicman]

Like Hosea says: The Day of the Lord is not an event you will cheer, for it is terrible.

Michael

Yesterday @ 09:51 PM
Hitch:

If you really think the Holy Spirit inspired the passages that form the basis of this belief why do you find it 'worrisome' to see God's word and will fulfilled?

Thoughts? Is there someone out there who could be the anti-Christ? Hmmmmm If you count up all the jews and muslims and hindus and bhuddist and fillintheblanks I d say there is no shorage of antichrists out there.

take care

Hitch

[David]

Hitch, we definitely will be cheering the day of the Lord for that refers to the Lord's second coming. But as in revelation, the heathen and the religious will have tears in their eyes for they have chosen the world, and the leader of this world the Anti-Christ.

And we will be vindicated and as we rise to meet the Lord in the air. But those left shall be saddenned as the further judgments of God descend upon them for they are worthy and the Lord's judgments are true and righteous.

This is the called the 45 day WRATH of God and Not the Tribulation because the tribulation is 1/3 strength whereas the Wrath is full strength as His vials are poured upon the wicked who have taken the Mark and have without cease persecuted and killed us. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjor...sTimeline.html

Its a terrible day of great power but it isn;t terrfying to us for we are aligned with the Lord's power and not to mere wordlly power. Our only tears will be tears of joy

David

[Hitch]

Why be stubborn and wear such rosy non-prophetic unChristian glasses. Why degrade prophecy when you should be encouraging pople to study it rather than giving them a false peace.

Disgusting.

[Hitch]

Today @ 05:23 AM
David:

Hitch, we definitely will be cheering the day of the Lord for that refers to the Lord's second coming. But as in revelation, the heathen and the religious will have tears in their eyes for they have chosen the world, and the leader of this world the Anti-Christ.

And we will be vindicated and as we rise to meet the Lord in the air. But those left shall be saddenned as the further judgments of God descend upon them for they are worthy and the Lord's judgments are true and righteous.

This is the called the 45 day WRATH of God and Not the Tribulation because the tribulation is 1/3 strength whereas the Wrath is full strength as His vials are poured upon the wicked who have taken the Mark and have without cease persecuted and killed us. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjor...sTimeline.html

Its a terrible day of great power but it isn;t terrfying to us for we are aligned with the Lord's power and not to mere wordlly power. Our only tears will be tears of joy

David

LMAO

[Hitch]

Today @ 01:21 AM
themuzicman:

Like Hosea says: The Day of the Lord is not an event you will cheer, for it is terrible.

Michael

I rather look forward to the return of Christ. But I reckon I'll have that front row,the dead in Christ are raised first seat.

[David]

Yes Hitch, we and all of us, should be looking forward to the Lord's return and hopefully won;t be just watching it, but moving upwards toward himfrom our front row seats.

But it can;t happen until ALL Prophecy is fulfilled ...meaning it can;t happen as the Pre-trib Rapture people believe who errantly think it can happen any day. Why because the whole seven year scenario is not conditional but written and exact and has to happen as spoken by the prophets.

We have to go through Tribulation or die trying, for the Lord returns after the Tribulation of 42 months, times and time and the dividing of time, 1260 days or three and a half years which is so consistently mentioned throughout scriptures

SEE Rapture after the Tribulation http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjor...ibulation.html

IHS

David

[nonkn4mr]

Seeing as Iraq is the home of Babylon, which is apparantly where many of the end times events occur or originate, is the pending war, and the UN plan to take over and rebuild Iraq a part of the end times scenario. It seems a bit worriesome to me to have the UN own a country with such a large portion of the world's oil reserves.

Thoughts? Is there someone out there who could be the anti-Christ?

Michael

Michael,

I have a couple theories... Bill the liar Clinton... He is very well liked, he started NAFTA, he gets a BJ in office and is congratulated for it where others would be impeached for such an act, he ram rodded the peace treaty between Arafat and Israel (he had to nudge the pm of Israel to shake Arafats hand), Hilary wants to see him as Ambassador to the world, he lied about doing drugs and having sex, and he could have taken out Bin Laden but didnt.

The pope he is German, he is a man of God or claims to be, Rome wants to ressurrect the Roman Empire and he wants to add thou shall not commit road rage as another commandment. The anti christ will rise out of Rome.

Israel is very close to all walls down the current PM is ready to give up the Golan Heights if Syria cuts ties with Hamas and Al Quaeda. We are quickly approaching the false 7 year peace treaty between Israel and Palestine.

Anyway something to think about....

[Ryokan]

oldschool thread. Shockingly, no end times and no anti-christ.

[David_A_Reed]

Seeing as Iraq is the home of Babylon, which is apparantly where many of the end times events occur or originate, is the pending war, and the UN plan to take over and rebuild Iraq a part of the end times scenario. It seems a bit worriesome to me to have the UN own a country with such a large portion of the world's oil reserves.

Thoughts? Is there someone out there who could be the anti-Christ?

Michael

According to Martin Luther the papacy and Islam are the two "legs" of Antichrist, and according to John Calvin the papacy and Islam are the two "horns" of Antichrist.

Others who already saw Antichrist in the world include Jonathan Edwards, Charles Haddon Spurgeon, Tyndale, Wycliffe, Wesley, Roger Williams, Huss, et al.

David