Trump is DEFINITELY a covert neo-nazi

[KingsGambit]

Okay, so time to quit playing - you need to accept Christ and turn in your atheist card. You are arguing for numerology - you just killed every semblance of atheism.

Numerology isn't the issue. There is numerology in the Bible. And it is uncontroversial that white supremacists really are obsessed with numerology. The issue is that it's utterly implausible that this is an example of it.

But, yes, Jim should stop his rebellion against God. If he's going to resist so hard that he makes this argument, he should examine what the real issue is.

[Teallaura]

And while he's out, muck out the stable!

<looks around the thread> Most the muck appears to be outside the stable, if you ask me...

[Mountain Man]

"White supremacist" is the new leftist bugaboo. It's their default club to use when someone disagrees with their brand of leftist tripe.

The term "racist" has become dulled from overuse, so they needed something new.

[Mountain Man]

Nope, it's not all of Trumps supporters, some, like I said, are apparently just blind, ignorant sheep, who don't seem to realize that they are associated with, and being led by, the basest of the base, a.k.a. "the deplorables." Which one are you?

Did you know that 1 out of every 3 liberals is just as stupid as the other two? And statistics don't lie.

[Teallaura]

Numerology isn't the issue. There is numerology in the Bible. And it is uncontroversial that white supremacists really are obsessed with numerology. The issue is that it's utterly implausible that this is an example of it.

Er, no - speaking as a former strong atheist, if you're arguing for numerology, you're arguing against the foundation of why you were an atheist to begin with. Granted, it's only true from the atheist POV - but that was what I was getting at.

White supremacists aren't a particular interest of mine - but that fact isn't surprising. Many Nazis (the real ones) were fascinated by the occult, prophesy and destiny - which was just as irrational given their often simultaneous contemptuous rejection of Christianity and God.

But, yes, Jim should stop his rebellion against God. If he's going to resist so hard that he makes this argument, he should examine what the real issue is.

[Teallaura]

Did you know that 1 out of every 3 liberals is just as stupid as the other two? And statistics don't lie.

[KingsGambit]

Er, no - speaking as a former strong atheist, if you're arguing for numerology, you're arguing against the foundation of why you were an atheist to begin with. Granted, it's only true from the atheist POV - but that was what I was getting at.

To be fair, Jim wasn't arguing that numerology had validity. He was arguing that Trump was pandering to a crowd that does think it has validity.

[Teallaura]

To be fair, Jim wasn't arguing that numerology had validity. He was arguing that Trump was pandering to a crowd that does think it has validity.

But to make the argument, he has to use numerology. It's still really problematic for an atheist - more so the way he went about it.

[KingsGambit]

But to make the argument, he has to use numerology. It's still really problematic for an atheist - more so the way he went about it.

Acknowledging a (supposedly) existing social phenomenon (and among Neo-Nazis, this is a significant one) does not equate to thinking the phenomenon actually has any validity.

[rogue06]

This is like a teacher in an Elementary School not saying the words "but," "behind" or "rear" because a couple of kids will titter because of it.

[Teallaura]

Acknowledging a (supposedly) existing social phenomenon (and among Neo-Nazis, this is a significant one) does not equate to thinking the phenomenon actually has any validity.

Since he was arguing for a specific meaning, I don't think you are correctly representing his argument. You're doing a good job on the argument he should have made - but not the one he did.

[Cow Poke]

This is like a teacher in an Elementary School not saying the words "but," "behind" or "rear" because a couple of kids will titter because of it.

The proper terminology is "hiney-bo".

[KingsGambit]

I'm not interested in any further defenses of JimL so I'll let it go

[KingsGambit]

This is like a teacher in an Elementary School not saying the words "but," "behind" or "rear" because a couple of kids will titter because of it.

In seventh grade, when we discussed sperm whales, the teacher told everybody to say "sperm" just to get it out of the way.

[Cow Poke]

In seventh grade, when we discussed sperm whales, the teacher told everybody to say "sperm" just to get it out of the way.

And when we were studying the planets, what IDIOT named that one, you know, that makes all Junior High boys squeal with delight?