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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostI saw MaxVel use it earlier, never heard it before then. It's perfect, and I'll have to remember it.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostDid you know that hypocrites always blame the other person? It's true.
I think this has moved way too far away from my initial points that I will just repeat and be prepared to discuss if anyone is willing to do so without personal attacks or making false claims about what I believe:
The childish name calling, the personal attacks, portraying of other actual persons as dogs that I have seen from people who call themselves Christians is not even the worst part of it. The worst part is that the radical message of Jesus, his message that you should love the least of these, that you should even love your enemies, seemingly leads people to conclude that it is ok to dehumanize, it is ok to put children in cages, it is ok to rely on personal attacks and it is ok to rely on relativism.
When I read the Bible, I am confronted with a strength and a message that is not only far beyond what I see on tweb. It is also radically different in quite many cases.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThe better advice would be to forget it. Even if you disagree with someone you are not moving any further with that sort of language if you want to solve the disagreements and make it a discussion about things on which you disagree instead of a discussion involving personal attacks.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostOkay, I tried to ignore this, but this extremely distorted version of events is too much for me.
No, it isn't. An occasional "mean" word directed your way is not bullying. What you are receiving is mild compared to have been dishing out.
And you act as if minor push back to your hostility is bullying, which it simply is not. It also doesn't change the fact that you are engaging in using different types of bullying tactics. Psychological and emotional manipulation, and also the tactic of making those who disagree with you after you poke them in the eye look like the bullies by crying loudly about it.
Did you do so privately to him over a private message? Because you did not apologize to him in that thread, you apologized in a different thread, but not in this one. You in fact got worse and worse towards MaxVel in that thread, and accused him, and all of us, as producing "the dynamic that creates suicides".
Your pattern has been that you attack people, get minor push back that you cry about, apologize(not even always that). Rinse and repeat. I've seen you do this at least twice with different people, which is why I don't expect any real change after your apology in this thread.
I read the full thread, and the full conversation. No apology from you in it, just a worse and worse response to anyone who disagreed with you. You aren't even reading what happened at all apparently.
That was a different thread entirely. Actually click the links instead of jumping to conclusions about what they are. I do remember correctly, and went back and reread much of the thread just to be 100% sure. Something you haven't done.
The "I'm sorry you feel that way" isn't much of an apology either. You also broke that promise in the thread I actually linked to.
You broke that promise in the thread I linked unless you are talking about a private message that no one else ever saw. However, that does mean you broke the same promise when you made to MaxVel in a different thread.
You mean like how you and your buddies in Nat. Sci. 301 treat those who don't agree with you? The same kind of treatment that is the reason I don't post there anymore?
You attacked Teal when she was nothing but polite to you personally in this thread. NorrinRad was kind of harsh, but he made one post. Teal did amen it, but that doesn't mean she agreed with him being harsh. Your response implied that Teal's master was Satan. That is far harsher than anything said to you in this thread. You're the one who attacks below the belt than gets upset when you get a slap in the face in response.
Never said you can't defend yourself, and didn't imply that either. The whole point of the original fight you had with Teal was that if you start a fight, you shouldn't be surprised when people defend themselves.
I haven't had any private messages from oxmixmudd. And I think your summary is pretty much on point....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThe better advice would be to forget it. Even if you disagree with someone you are not moving any further with that sort of language if you want to solve the disagreements and make it a discussion about things on which you disagree instead of a discussion involving personal attacks.
The discussion was about their habit of making personal attacks on those who disagree with them, thus the term is apt to describe their behaviour. Go and read the full context given in Cerebrum's posts, including the links and the threads they're in.
Oxmixmudd doesn't get to claim innocence when he has made personal attacks on people who simply disagreed with him, and, worse, pre-emptive attacks on people who haven't yet responded to his posts.
Claiming that he is being bullied by everyone here is a gross exaggeration, and frankly offensive to those who have suffered severe real-world bullying (at least two posters in this thread). Maybe - at a stretch - he could argue that one or two posters have bullied him, but certainly not pretty much everyone, constantly. Thus he fits the term 'cry-bully' - poke and poke at people, and then whine like a * when they tell him he's being offensive.
* insert offensive term here.
Urban Dictionary "Cry Bully"
Someone who uses the perceived righteousness of a social justice cause as a pretext to abuse others, and then plays the victim when confronted about that abuse.Last edited by MaxVel; 08-11-2019, 10:08 AM....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThe bigger picture is that the propaganda victory will endure much longer than the clean-up.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostI haven't had any private messages from oxmixmudd. And I think your summary is pretty much on point.
Originally posted by MaxVel View PostThe discussion was about their habit of making personal attacks on those who disagree with them, thus the term is apt to describe their behaviour. Go and read the full context given in Cerebrum's posts, including the links and the threads they're in.
Oxmixmudd doesn't get to claim innocence when he has made personal attacks on people who simply disagreed with him, and, worse, pre-emptive attacks on people who haven't yet responded to his posts.
Claiming that he is being bullied by everyone here is a gross exaggeration, and frankly offensive to those who have suffered severe real-world bullying (at least two posters in this thread). Maybe - at a stretch - he could argue that one or two posters have bullied him, but certainly not pretty much everyone, constantly. Thus he fits the term 'cry-bully' - poke and poke at people, and then whine like a * when they tell him he's being offensive.
* insert offensive term here.
Urban Dictionary "Cry Bully"
Seems pretty much spot on to me.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, Trump saying stuff is exactly what made this an issue. And yes, we do hate lying, theiving, treasonous wannabe dictators living in our house."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostI think this has moved way too far away from my initial point...
What's hilarious is you seem to think you're being subtle about it.
I'll let you off the hook now. You can return to your regularly scheduled trolling.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostTrue; the devil has many talents. [just another way of looking at it.]The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
And you act as if minor push back to your hostility is bullying, which it simply is not. It also doesn't change the fact that you are engaging in using different types of bullying tactics. Psychological and emotional manipulation, and also the tactic of making those who disagree with you after you poke them in the eye look like the bullies by crying loudly about it.
Your pattern has been that you attack people, get minor push back that you cry about, apologize(not even always that). Rinse and repeat. I've seen you do this at least twice with different people, which is why I don't expect any real change after your apology in this thread.
The "I'm sorry you feel that way" isn't much of an apology either.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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