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Originally posted by Adrift View PostSince this has been a big issue with other hardcore Sov-Cit, 2nd Amendment types (as the videos I've posted have demonstrated), I wonder how this will mark legal precedent if it goes to court.
Very little case law is based on the Second Amendment - and the Court threw a monkey wrench at most of that with incorporation - but none of it holds that you have a right to disturb the peace just because you have a right to carry a weapon. The Second Amendment is not a license to act like a fool - or to misuse weapons or to cause others to fear legitimately for their safety. There's nothing in this 'lookie, we're being jerks' kind of 'test' that works in favor of gun rights - these morons are helping gun CONTROL if they are helping anything. But mostly, the courts aren't going to look at the Second Amendment since it doesn't grant the right to be a public nuisance."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd the open carry aspect - which is what was being exploited - often does not have the same restrictions as legal concealed carry permit holders do. I suspect this will be another wave of profitability for lawyers.
Usually, gun control advocates are its worst enemies - sometimes, the other guy gets to wear the shoe!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThey will be lucky if they aren't laughed out of the trial court - the appellate courts will probably not even take it.
Very little case law is based on the Second Amendment - and the Court threw a monkey wrench at most of that with incorporation - but none of it holds that you have a right to disturb the peace just because you have a right to carry a weapon. The Second Amendment is not a license to act like a fool - or to misuse weapons or to cause others to fear legitimately for their safety. There's nothing in this 'lookie, we're being jerks' kind of 'test' that works in favor of gun rights - these morons are helping gun CONTROL if they are helping anything. But mostly, the courts aren't going to look at the Second Amendment since it doesn't grant the right to be a public nuisance.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThey will be lucky if they aren't laughed out of the trial court - the appellate courts will probably not even take it.
Very little case law is based on the Second Amendment - and the Court threw a monkey wrench at most of that with incorporation - but none of it holds that you have a right to disturb the peace just because you have a right to carry a weapon. The Second Amendment is not a license to act like a fool - or to misuse weapons or to cause others to fear legitimately for their safety. There's nothing in this 'lookie, we're being jerks' kind of 'test' that works in favor of gun rights - these morons are helping gun CONTROL if they are helping anything. But mostly, the courts aren't going to look at the Second Amendment since it doesn't grant the right to be a public nuisance.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah you are right, these guys are helping gun control, because it means they will more pass laws restricting where you can carry guns, and pretty soon while you are able to own a gun, you can't take it anywhere. Kinda like smoking.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThey will be lucky if they aren't laughed out of the trial court - the appellate courts will probably not even take it.
Very little case law is based on the Second Amendment - and the Court threw a monkey wrench at most of that with incorporation - but none of it holds that you have a right to disturb the peace just because you have a right to carry a weapon. The Second Amendment is not a license to act like a fool - or to misuse weapons or to cause others to fear legitimately for their safety. There's nothing in this 'lookie, we're being jerks' kind of 'test' that works in favor of gun rights - these morons are helping gun CONTROL if they are helping anything. But mostly, the courts aren't going to look at the Second Amendment since it doesn't grant the right to be a public nuisance.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostSo one wonders what the aim is then, and why/how they've been able to get away with it before now.
There's one in every crowd - thinks they know everything and then proves the opposite.
They probably didn't try anything so extreme - or they got lucky and the cop just let them do their thing, get bored and leave, an option the cops have when the entire country isn't on edge."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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