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Originally posted by seanD View PostI made the same argument in two posts. The second one he misrepresented was the second post I made with my same points. I thought I made as clear as I could what my point was. If you want to think Adrift just isn't that smart, coolThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostMSM is mainly untrustworthy when they can exploit it with a partisan angle. In this case, since it works both against Clinton and Trump, there's not really any partisan angle MSM can really target without hurting one or the other. In most cases though, MSM works to dissuade conspiracy theories and tote the official line of the story (though there hasn't really been an official line with this story yet since it's still being investigated). There's already quite a few article hit pieces against Epstein conspiracy theories I've seen floating out there, especially against Trump's claim it was the Clintons. They've really jumped on that one. So it doesn't seem they'd be ready, perhaps even a bit reluctant to report unconfirmed facts that would fuel those theories even more.
It's funny that some people seem to forget this was propagated by the intelligence community. Sure the MSM took advantage of it because it worked against Trump, but this was the official government story reflecting off the MSM at the time and to question it dubbed Trump supporters as conspiracy theorists.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostTrue, it was a result of U.S. intelligence, which Trump has you all believing to be corrupt, just like he has you all believing the free press is corrupt, that judges are corrupt, that democracy itself is corrupt, and that only he, the liar and chief himself, can be believed. Well, we will soon see whether the U.S. democracy will survive, or whether your beloved and corrupt King Trump will triumph in the end. I'm putting my money on U.S. and democracy!Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIn many cases they do it intentionally to obfuscate the main argument or point of the post.
Originally posted by seanD View PostJust one example is Adrift implying I was arguing about fairness in the media in how they represented Trump and that's not AT ALL what I was arguing.
Originally posted by seanD View PostI was making a point why I believe they wouldn't state false facts about the case. But he conveniently snipped it so he could in fact make that argument.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBut it often does result in taking things out of context.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOR, at least use the quote function so that somebody can see the context from which you stripped the limited quote.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostThis is simply untrue. That may be how someone takes it when they can't formulate a rebuttal to a point by point reply, but I imagine it isn't how most people on most forums take counter arguments that see a point-by-point reply.
Regardless of what you intend, what I read is that you WERE talking about how the media represents Trump. I don't know how else to take your complaint, and I would have made the exact same counter-point regardless of whether or not I replied to your post in whole or point by point. It's because your point is apparently confused that I NEED to address each point on its own.
This is simply ad hom. I told you why I snipped your out the rest of your post, and even when I replied to your post in whole you balked.
It's not at all necessary for me to defend this anymore. Anyone can go to post #353 and see how you grossly misrepresented my point, which was the second post I made with the same points as previous. Stay truthful though, brother. Just sayin.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI made the same argument in two posts. The second one he misrepresented was the second post I made with my same points. I thought I made as clear as I could what my point was. If you want to think Adrift just isn't that smart, cool
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIt's not at all necessary for me to defend this anymore. Anyone can go to post #353 and see how you grossly misrepresented my point, which was the second post I made with the same points as previous. Stay truthful though, brother. Just sayin.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt does not. You and seanD are among the VERY few that believe this.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI believe it because I've seen it happen to my own arguments.
Do you not think it's strange that almost every other person on the forum feels this way about posting on message forums other than yourself and seanD? In your opinion, why do so many others feel comfortable with this style of posting? For many years you yourself posted in this fashion, and seemed to have little issue with it. Occasionally, I still see you post in this fashion. I'm a member of several other forums (mostly non-religious/non-political in nature), and in my experience you two are the only ones I've EVER come across who've made such a complaint.
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Anyway, back on topic...
Epstein's death officially ruled a suicide.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/n...y-results.htmlSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnyway, back on topic...
Epstein's death officially ruled a suicide.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/n...y-results.htmlThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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