Epstein Found Dead In Cell...

[demi-conservative]

If you twist toilet paper up, it becomes pretty strong. I imagine even a weak sheet would easily gain enough strength to support a hanging if twisted into a rope. And if the sheets really were weaker than toilet paper, then they would be useless as sheets, wouldn't they?

Yes, possible. Videos of outside is best proof.

[Tassman]

So the conspiracy nuts believe the coroner when they said he broke the bones in his neck

The coroner did NOT say “he broke the bones in his neck”, he said “Jeffrey Epstein had multiple broken bones in his neck". Get the distinction?

and they think that means foul play, but they don't believe the coroner when he says it was suicide?

People aren’t necessarily arguing “foul play”, but that the conjunction of circumstances indicates there might be and that further investigation is in order.

[Sparko]

The coroner did NOT say “he broke the bones in his neck”, he said “Jeffrey Epstein had multiple broken bones in his neck". Get the distinction?



People aren’t necessarily arguing “foul play”, but that the conjunction of circumstances indicates there might be and that further investigation is in order.

So you both believe the coroner who says "he had a broken Hyoid bone" in his neck, and saying "that doesn't usually occur with hangings" and don't believe the coroner when he says after finishing his examination that he did commit suicide?

Again you toss away the actual investigation and claim "we need to do our own investigation!"



Do you know what confirmation bias is? It is what you are looking for.

[JimL]

So you both believe the coroner who says "he had a broken Hyoid bone" in his neck, and saying "that doesn't usually occur with hangings" and don't believe the coroner when he says after finishing his examination that he did commit suicide?

Again you toss away the actual investigation and claim "we need to do our own investigation!"



Do you know what confirmation bias is? It is what you are looking for.

The investigation is ongoing, Sparko. Death by hanging isn't necessarily suicide, and there are too many suspiscious issues associated with this event that need be cleared up. That's all. No one is saying it wasn't suicide. But we want to know what the evidence itself is, not just accept the conclusion stated, such as we got from Atty Gen. Barr regarding the Mueller report.

[Sparko]

The investigation is ongoing, Sparko. Death by hanging isn't necessarily suicide, and there are too many suspiscious issues associated with this event that need be cleared up. That's all. No one is saying it wasn't suicide. But we want to know what the evidence itself is, not just accept the conclusion stated, such as we got from Atty Gen. Barr regarding the Mueller report.

No the investigation into the cause of his death is not ongoing. They ruled it a suicide.

[JimL]

No the investigation into the cause of his death is not ongoing. They ruled it a suicide.

Yes, but as I said, death by hanging is not necessarily suicide, so there is no way for that to be determined with certainty. Coroners get it wrong all the time, like Dr Baden in the O.J. case. The investigation could turn up evidence to the contrary of the coroners analysis.

[Sparko]

Yes, but as I said, death by hanging is not necessarily suicide, so there is no way for that to be determined with certainty. Coroners get it wrong all the time, like Dr Baden in the O.J. case. The investigation could turn up evidence to the contrary of the coroners analysis.

You can spit in one hand and wish in the other and see which fills up first.

/end cowpoke mode.

[One Bad Pig]

You can spit in one hand and wish in the other and see which fills up first.

/end cowpoke mode.

Why did you end cowpoke mode twice?

[Sparko]

Why did you end cowpoke mode twice?

[Charles]

Think different

[Teallaura]

Why did you end cowpoke mode twice?

Cite tags do that, too.

[One Bad Pig]

Adding "end" was redundant.

[Sparko]

Adding "end" was redundant.

You need to work on your sense of humor.

[Adrift]

You need to work on your sense of humor.

RIP in peace.

[Mountain Man]

Yeah, I think it depends on the issue, but kind of along with what you're saying I see this video ALL of the time posted on other forums (particularly Reddit)

It's a "don't talk to cops" video with a presentation from a legal expert on the subject. I think there's wisdom here, though I think some people (especially those who post it a lot online) take it WAY too far. I've seen people take this so seriously that they recommend not talking to cops even if pulled over for a traffic violation, which seems to me to be a great way of getting yourself a ticket. There's a hilarious skit from Bob & Dave (Bob Odenkirk and David Cross) starring Keegan-Michael Key with a sov-cit type demonstrating your legal rights about talking to cops. I can't link it here because of language, but it's pretty much what I imagine those folks who take the "do not talk to cops" motto too far act like.

I think the only time that advice applies is if you've been arrested and read the Miranda warning (which police read with the hope that you'll naively waive your rights and talk to them anyway). Then it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut until you've spoken with a lawyer.