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  • #16
    I like superheroes, but they are essentially fantastic versions of volunteer emergency services workers. Why cut out the middle man and say Jesus is like a volunteer emergency services worker that came to save the lost. And people should not compare Jesus to a certain fictional environmental refugee.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
      I like superheroes, but they are essentially fantastic versions of volunteer emergency services workers. Why cut out the middle man and say Jesus is like a volunteer emergency services worker that came to save the lost. And people should not compare Jesus to a certain fictional environmental refugee.
      You know why God created Firemen?

      Because cops needed heroes.



      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        You know why God created Firemen?

        Because cops needed heroes.



        Firefighters save lives. Jesus saves souls! Hmmm... Jesus was a one man medical field, how would He do against a fire? They had house fires in ancient times.
        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
          Thanks. Never much cared for Hillsong, which would help explain my ignorance.
          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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          • #20
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            Thanks. Never much cared for Hillsong, which would help explain my ignorance.
            Is Hillsong one of the "Jesus is my girlfriend" outfits? Lots of emotion and mood stuff?
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #21
              OK, so I found this ....Why Hillsong Music is Dangerous For Your Church


              Houston, we have a problem!

              Brian Houston, that is. Arguably one of the most influential figures of today’s professing church, Houston, is currently the senior pastor of the worldwide multi-site megachurch known as Hillsong. The church, founded by Houston’s paedophile father, Frank Houston, dominates the contemporary worship music scene, with their songs being played in churches of every denomination around the entire world.


              Popular songs like Oceans and Forever Reign with lyrics like “Spirit lead me, where my trust is without borders,” and “nothing compares to your embrace” fill the IMAG screens of Baptist churches, Methodist churches, Pentecostal churches, Catholic churches–churches of every kind during Sunday morning worship. From raging electric guitars, drums, and professional soloists to small choirs with nothing more than a keyboard and a few singers, the music is emotionally captivating, bringing many to tears and arms lifted high, as they sing out praises to God.

              So what’s not to like?

              First, Hillsong is a cult. Particularly, a cult of personality. In a blog post on Hillsong’s website entitled Five Things That Should Matter to a Worship Leader, one of Hillsong’s foremost worship leaders, Jonathan Douglass writes:

              2. We are about fulfilling our Senior Pastor’s vision (not our own)

              It is so important that as amazing as our creative ideas might be, if they don’t ultimately line up with what our Senior Pastor and leaders want, then we happily put them aside.The church doesn’t exist to build our worship teams… our worship teams exist to build the Church!!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Is Hillsong one of the "Jesus is my girlfriend" outfits? Lots of emotion and mood stuff?
                Maybe? It's been at the forefront of praise & worship music for a couple decades, I think. I'm pretty far removed from that now.
                Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                  Maybe? It's been at the forefront of praise & worship music for a couple decades, I think. I'm pretty far removed from that now.
                  Yeah, that's not my thing --- and I just posted something that, if true, is rather concerning.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Yeah, that's not my thing --- and I just posted something that, if true, is rather concerning.
                    Well, Pulpit & Pen is not an even-handed source; they're the ones who excoriated Hank Hanegraaff for "leaving the Christian faith" when he became Orthodox.
                    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                    Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                    I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                      Well, Pulpit & Pen is not an even-handed source; they're the ones who excoriated Hank Hanegraaff for "leaving the Christian faith" when he became Orthodox.
                      OK - I hereby proudly declare I'm not an authority on contemporary music or the criticism thereof.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        OK - I hereby proudly declare I'm not an authority on contemporary music or the criticism thereof.
                        I'm not saying their points aren't valid - I'm no authority on that either - just that their polemics might not be on-point.
                        Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                        Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                        I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          I'm not saying their points aren't valid - I'm no authority on that either - just that their polemics might not be on-point.
                          Fair enough - we'll see if anybody else knows more than we do, even collectively.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            Well, Pulpit & Pen is not an even-handed source; they're the ones who excoriated Hank Hanegraaff for "leaving the Christian faith" when he became Orthodox.
                            yeah, they tend to be a "only those who fit our narrow definition of Christians are Christians" bunch.

                            for example as a Charismatic they consider me to be one of the worst types of heretics.
                            Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
                            1 Corinthians 16:13

                            "...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
                            -Ben Witherington III

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                              I like superheroes, but they are essentially fantastic versions of volunteer emergency services workers. Why cut out the middle man and say Jesus is like a volunteer emergency services worker that came to save the lost. And people should not compare Jesus to a certain fictional environmental refugee.
                              It's okay to use appropriate metaphors for God. Otherwise, David would have been wrong to write "the Lord is my shepherd".

                              And, to be blunt, Pulpit and Pen is a garbage site that turns Christians against Christians and uses riposte in unjustified circumstances.
                              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                                It's okay to use appropriate metaphors for God. Otherwise, David would have been wrong to write "the Lord is my shepherd".

                                And, to be blunt, Pulpit and Pen is a garbage site that turns Christians against Christians and uses riposte in unjustified circumstances.
                                I found their treatment of Nabeel Qureshi particularly distasteful.
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