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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    I like three - it was about trying to find redemption...
    I agree. I think it's gotten a bad rep over time, and it's not as good as the first two films in my opinion, but it was needed to wrap things up, and come full circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    You mean, in film generally?


    Well, as mentioned, Godfather II,
    I'll guess I'll have to watch that sometime when Mrs CP isn't home - she doesn't like that kind of film.

    but off the top of my head, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    ....From Russia With Love (also On Her Majesty's Secret Service, The Living Daylights, GoldenEye, and Casino Royale, which are the only Bond films I really like)
    I have to disagree, I have been a Bond fan since I was a kid in the sixties, and I think Skyfall was the all time best Bond film. And Craig the best Bond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    I have to disagree, I have been a Bond fan since I was a kid in the sixties, and I think Skyfall was the all time best Bond film. And Craig the best Bond.
    I knew my Bond picks would be controversial. I just like the Bond films where James Bond actually is affected by the scenarios he's in, and acts more human than the super-spy stereotype. I LOVE Casino Royale, because we saw a very vulnerable Bond who was conflicted about his role, who was still learning the ropes, and who was deeply in love. I loved that this was a new Bond for a new age that was completely unlike the Bond of yesteryear. Skyfall sort of dashed all of that by returning the franchise to its roots. It's so much more in the vein of Sean Connery's Bond, with a love interest whose fate he's practically uninterested in, and comic strip type villains with ridiculous master plans. It's a big departure from the grounded direction the franchise seemed to be going with the first two films (and I say that thinking Quantum of Solace was a bit crap).

    Also, I know that On Her Majesty's Secret Service is probably one of the least liked Bond films, but I really like George Lazenby. The film has a lot of great humor, and actually develops the character a bit (James Bond was married?!). There's a fantastic documentary on Lazenby called Becoming Bond (2017), and it's a totally crazy story. He really should have been in more films, and it sucks that he wasn't. Roger Moore is my least liked James Bond mostly because he seems more of a parody of Bond than David Niven did in his version of Casino Royale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post
    I knew my Bond picks would be controversial. I just like the Bond films where James Bond actually is affected by the scenarios he's in, and acts more human than the super-spy stereotype. I LOVE Casino Royale, because we saw a very vulnerable Bond who was conflicted about his role, who was still learning the ropes, and who was deeply in love. I loved that this was a new Bond for a new age that was completely unlike the Bond of yesteryear. Skyfall sort of dashed all of that by returning the franchise to its roots. It's so much more in the vein of Sean Connery's Bond, with a love interest whose fate he's practically uninterested in, and comic strip type villains with ridiculous master plans. It's a big departure from the grounded direction the franchise seemed to be going with the first two films (and I say that thinking Quantum of Solace was a bit crap).
    I agree with you about Casino Royale, but I loved Skyfall, going into Bond's past and finishing in the Highlands of Scotland, the death of M, and the introduction of Miss Moneypenny.

    Also, I know that On Her Majesty's Secret Service is probably one of the least liked Bond films, but I really like George Lazenby. The film has a lot of great humor, and actually develops the character a bit (James Bond was married?!). There's a fantastic documentary on Lazenby called Becoming Bond (2017), and it's a totally crazy story. He really should have been in more films, and it sucks that he wasn't. Roger Moore is my least liked James Bond mostly because he seems more of a parody of Bond than David Niven did in his version of Casino Royale.
    I thought I was the only one who liked George Lazenby! So the new Bond is going to be a woman? I don't like that - it doesn't fit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    I thought I was the only one who liked George Lazenby! So the new Bond is going to be a woman? I don't like that - it doesn't fit...
    Bond.... James Bond! Um... I mean JANE Bond!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Bond.... James Bond! Um... I mean JANE Bond!
    Maybe she will be a man in transition - that would be better! ; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    I thought I was the only one who liked George Lazenby!


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    So the new Bond is going to be a woman? I don't like that - it doesn't fit...
    I hadn't heard about that, but you know...diversity...and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrift View Post




    I hadn't heard about that, but you know...diversity...and stuff.
    If diversity was what they wanted, I heard some people calling for Idris Elba to be the next Bond, which I would've been ok with. (I'm not a Bond fan, but Idris Elba is fricking cool, so...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    If diversity was what they wanted, I heard some people calling for Idris Elba to be the next Bond, which I would've been ok with. (I'm not a Bond fan, but Idris Elba is fricking cool, so...)
    It depends on whether or not "James Bond" like "007" is merely a label given to MI6 agents, or, as OHMSS and Casino Royale seem to suggest, it's the same dude through all of the films. If the later, then, yeah, no thanks. I'd be thrilled to see a good black 008 film though. Things I care a lot about in film is continuity, and historical accuracy (which isn't really a concern here). I'm also a bit of a stickler on faithfulness to the source material (though I can give that a bit more leeway depending on the adaptation). As Michelle Rodriguez pointed out, the entertainment industry needs to stop co-opting popular white characters for minorities, and start actually developing good stories based on unique ethnic characters. People just want a good story, they don't care what the race or gender of the protagonist is, and the sooner that Hollywood gets that the less ridiculous the diversity quota filler will look.

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