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  • #16
    Originally posted by seer View Post
    I thought I was the only one who liked George Lazenby! So the new Bond is going to be a woman? I don't like that - it doesn't fit...
    Bond.... James Bond! Um... I mean JANE Bond!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Bond.... James Bond! Um... I mean JANE Bond!
      Maybe she will be a man in transition - that would be better! ; )
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      • #18
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        I thought I was the only one who liked George Lazenby!


        Originally posted by seer View Post
        So the new Bond is going to be a woman? I don't like that - it doesn't fit...
        I hadn't heard about that, but you know...diversity...and stuff.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Adrift View Post




          I hadn't heard about that, but you know...diversity...and stuff.
          If diversity was what they wanted, I heard some people calling for Idris Elba to be the next Bond, which I would've been ok with. (I'm not a Bond fan, but Idris Elba is fricking cool, so...)
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
            If diversity was what they wanted, I heard some people calling for Idris Elba to be the next Bond, which I would've been ok with. (I'm not a Bond fan, but Idris Elba is fricking cool, so...)
            It depends on whether or not "James Bond" like "007" is merely a label given to MI6 agents, or, as OHMSS and Casino Royale seem to suggest, it's the same dude through all of the films. If the later, then, yeah, no thanks. I'd be thrilled to see a good black 008 film though. Things I care a lot about in film is continuity, and historical accuracy (which isn't really a concern here). I'm also a bit of a stickler on faithfulness to the source material (though I can give that a bit more leeway depending on the adaptation). As Michelle Rodriguez pointed out, the entertainment industry needs to stop co-opting popular white characters for minorities, and start actually developing good stories based on unique ethnic characters. People just want a good story, they don't care what the race or gender of the protagonist is, and the sooner that Hollywood gets that the less ridiculous the diversity quota filler will look.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
              If diversity was what they wanted, I heard some people calling for Idris Elba to be the next Bond, which I would've been ok with. (I'm not a Bond fan, but Idris Elba is fricking cool, so...)

              I like Elba, very cool indeed!
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              • #22
                FYI: she's the new 007 - NOT the 'new Bond' - she takes over the designation from Bond.


                The only Bond film I ever saw in the theater was Moonraker but I still loved Roger Moore. He did bring a lot of The Saint's class to Bond - and he got stuck with some of the worst plots...
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                  You mean, in film generally? Well, as mentioned, Godfather II, but off the top of my head, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Trolls 2, Rocky 4, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Evil Dead II and Army of Darkness, Spider-Man 2, Hellboy 2, The Dark Knight, From Russia With Love (also On Her Majesty's Secret Service, The Living Daylights, GoldenEye, and Casino Royale, which are the only Bond films I really like), Mad Max Fury Road.
                  I enjoyed all of the Toy Story sequels, and Despicable Me ones as well. I need to see the How to Train Your Dragon ones.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                    It depends on whether or not "James Bond" like "007" is merely a label given to MI6 agents, or, as OHMSS and Casino Royale seem to suggest, it's the same dude through all of the films. If the later, then, yeah, no thanks. I'd be thrilled to see a good black 008 film though. Things I care a lot about in film is continuity, and historical accuracy (which isn't really a concern here). I'm also a bit of a stickler on faithfulness to the source material (though I can give that a bit more leeway depending on the adaptation). As Michelle Rodriguez pointed out, the entertainment industry needs to stop co-opting popular white characters for minorities, and start actually developing good stories based on unique ethnic characters. People just want a good story, they don't care what the race or gender of the protagonist is, and the sooner that Hollywood gets that the less ridiculous the diversity quota filler will look.
                    Depends on the show. I loved the 1980's TMNT cartoon, 2003 one, and the CGI one on Nickelodeon. Only the 2003 was really faithful to the comics(mostly), but all the shows are good. I also liked the 60's Batman, and that was just goofy.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
                      I enjoyed all of the Toy Story sequels, and Despicable Me ones as well. I need to see the How to Train Your Dragon ones.
                      I'm not super familiar with animated films, especially those geared towards kids and families. I haven't seen any of the Despicable Me movies. I did see the recent Incredibles sequel, but I didn't like it much.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
                        Depends on the show. I loved the 1980's TMNT cartoon, 2003 one, and the CGI one on Nickelodeon. Only the 2003 was really faithful to the comics(mostly), but all the shows are good. I also liked the 60's Batman, and that was just goofy.
                        Yeah, like I said, it really depends on the adaptation. I think people are crazy when they complain about, say, the Lord of the Rings adaptations, which seemed to me as faithful as possible given the format. On the other hand, people HATE the Dune adaptation, where I prefer it over the book. Arguably the 60s Batman show was a straight adaptation of the 50s and 60s comics of the time. I was a little too old for the whole TMNT thing, but I know that the initial comic was pretty dark, and framed on Frank Miller's Daredevil run.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                          I'm not super familiar with animated films, especially those geared towards kids and families. I haven't seen any of the Despicable Me movies. I did see the recent Incredibles sequel, but I didn't like it much.
                          Animation is something I've been into since I was little. I still want to see Incredibles 2 since I really liked the first one.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                            Yeah, like I said, it really depends on the adaptation. I think people are crazy when they complain about, say, the Lord of the Rings adaptations, which seemed to me as faithful as possible given the format. On the other hand, people HATE the Dune adaptation, where I prefer it over the book. Arguably the 60s Batman show was a straight adaptation of the 50s and 60s comics of the time. I was a little too old for the whole TMNT thing, but I know that the initial comic was pretty dark, and framed on Frank Miller's Daredevil run.
                            I was unable to even get halfway through Dune, the book. So damn boring with all those idiotic names and titles of people.

                            The Expanse series is a pretty good adaptation of the books. They had to leave some stuff out of course, but the overall plot follows the books pretty close so far.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                              Yeah, like I said, it really depends on the adaptation. I think people are crazy when they complain about, say, the Lord of the Rings adaptations, which seemed to me as faithful as possible given the format. On the other hand, people HATE the Dune adaptation, where I prefer it over the book. Arguably the 60s Batman show was a straight adaptation of the 50s and 60s comics of the time. I was a little too old for the whole TMNT thing, but I know that the initial comic was pretty dark, and framed on Frank Miller's Daredevil run.
                              I have a friend who pretty much will not watch any new movies at all because they always have some difference from the source material.

                              Yeah, the TMNT comics were pretty dark. The 2003 adaptation basically went for a less violent, but still mostly faithful adaptation. For the 5 series I know of only 2 were bad. The live action one with a Power Rangers crossover, and the currently running Rise of the TMNT. The 80's one and mid 2010's one aren't that faithful to the original comics, but are quite enjoyable.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                I was unable to even get halfway through Dune, the book. So damn boring with all those idiotic names and titles of people.

                                The Expanse series is a pretty good adaptation of the books. They had to leave some stuff out of course, but the overall plot follows the books pretty close so far.
                                The Expanse is pretty good, and pretty well-cast, from what I remember of the books. Amos is, physically, totally different than he's described, but I think the actor absolutely nails the violent sociopath part, so I can overlook the physical inaccuracies.
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