Confirmations of the New Testament

[shunyadragon]

Source: https://brill.com/view/journals/vc/68/3/article-p264_2.xml?lang=en

The Prospect of a Christian Interpolation in Tacitus, Annals 15.44
in Vigiliae Christianae
Author: Richard Carrier 1
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Online Publication Date: 02 Jul 2014
Volume/Issue: Volume 68: Issue 3
Article Type: Research Article
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1163/15700720-12341171

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[shunyadragon]

There is more in this reference.

[shunyadragon]

From a Christina source: This supports the simpler version, where other scholars consider all of it an interpolation. Please not the existing reference remains the Agapius, an Arab Christian in 9th century version is quite late jn the 9th century.

[shunyadragon]

There is documented evidence of Christian interpolation of texts. The only question that is open is how much.

[Teallaura]

There is documented evidence of Christian interpolation of texts. The only question that is open is how much.

And this isn't news - also the answer is 'not very much'.

[rogue06]

True, and I could also write a book about unicorns or ufo's 70 years later that relies on eyewitness testimony from people that lived at that time. I'll bet you wouldn't believe it though.

It's good to stay with the things that you know about.

[rogue06]

While Josephus' reference to Jesus being crucified by Pilate, the so-called Testimonium Flavianum, is almost certainly a later interpolation or at least been modified, the offhand reference to him wrt to being the brother of James is regarded as authentic. Extremely few scholars question its authenticity, most notably (surprise, surprise) Richard Carrier.

[One Bad Pig]

While Josephus' reference to Jesus being crucified by Pilate, the so-called Testimonium Flavianum, is almost certainly a later interpolation or at least been modified, the offhand reference to him wrt to being the brother of James is regarded as authentic. Extremely few scholars question its authenticity, most notably (surprise, surprise) Richard Carrier.

The irony of all this is shunya is ostensibly Baha'i, and those writings have been massively edited over the less than two centuries since the Bab. He seems to have no problem with that.

[lee_merrill]

Again as discussed before. nothing here refers to first hand references.

Sure it does! "We were eyewitnesses", "We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard".

Blessings,
Lee

[lee_merrill]

And as I have heard, most of the differences are minor, spelling variations, etc.

Source: carm.org

The internal consistency of the New Testament documents is about 99.5% textually pure.

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And hundreds of thousands of variations sounds like a lot, until you consider the number of manuscripts:

Source: Wikipedia

If you spread those 400,000 variations over 5,600 manuscripts, that comes out to only about 71 variations per manuscript, (400,000 divided by 5,600). And some of these manuscripts are the equivalent of several hundred pages of text, hand-written...

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Blessings,
Lee

[shunyadragon]

And this isn't news - also the answer is 'not very much'.

The references cited indicate far more than you would be willing to admit.

[shunyadragon]

Precisely. I could now write a book about WWII over 70 years later that relies on eyewitness testimony like from my father and a couples of uncles as well as neighbors I knew growing up.

No references were made for eyewitnesses.

[Teallaura]

The references cited indicate far more than you would be willing to admit.

No, not really - just hyping the heck out of the few there are.

[Teallaura]

No references were made for eyewitnesses.

Shuny, when someone claims to be an eyewitness, we count that as a reference to being an eyewitness.

Bob claims to be an eyewitness and Mary records the account - we have an eyewitness account.

[Tassman]

And this isn't news - also the answer is 'not very much'.

The answer is that there are significantly more than you are prepared to acknowledge. The extant texts of the New Testament contain literally thousands of variations, or variants, from each other.

http://www.textexcavation.com/textualvariants.html