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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    This was dealt with 4 months ago, upthread. Go back to sleep, Frank.
    No it was not, and again NO original texts, and abundant evidence that the text of the gospels represent an evolved edited text, without known author. This true for some of the letters.

    It was only dealt with by an assertion of belief, and not evidence. It is a fallacy to use the tect to prove the text when there is no evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    No it was not, and again NO original texts, and abundant evidence that the text of the gospels represent an evolved edited text, without known author. This true for some of the letters.

    It was only dealt with by an assertion of belief, and not evidence. It is a fallacy to use the tect to prove the text when there is no evidence.
    This was dealt with, 4 months ago, upthread. Go back to sleep, Frank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    This was dealt with, 4 months ago, upthread. Go back to sleep, Frank.
    No it was not, and again NO original texts, and abundant evidence that the text of the gospels represent an evolved edited text, without known author. This true for some of the letters.

    It was only dealt with by an assertion of belief, and not evidence. It is a fallacy to use the text to prove the text when there is no evidence.

    Hand waves do not count. This is Archaeology 201, which begs for archaeological evidence.

    The objections to the claims of the original video have been made and documented.

    1) The New Testament was set in history history of the time, and like all ancient scripture contain known events, people and places, but based on this they cannot be concluded to be completely accurate. Not all events are known by current archaeology evidence of parallel record, such as the timing of census and tax collection recorded in the gospels.

    2) There is no reason to believe that those literate writing 100 to 200+ years after Jesus did not know most of the events, places and people of the time of Jesus.

    3) All the historical records cited in the video are late, third hand, and of questionable provenance such as Josephus' writings.

    3}Absolutely no text has been found within 100 years of the life of Jesus. I am being generous here, because the texts found are even later.
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    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    No it was not, and again NO original texts, and abundant evidence that the text of the gospels represent an evolved edited text, without known author. This true for some of the letters.

    It was only dealt with by an assertion of belief, and not evidence. It is a fallacy to use the text to prove the text when there is no evidence.

    Hand waves do not count. This is Archaeology 201, which begs for archaeological evidence.

    The objections to the claims of the original video have been made and documented.

    1) The New Testament was set in history history of the time, and like all ancient scripture contain known events, people and places, but based on this they cannot be concluded to be completely accurate. Not all events are known by current archaeology evidence of parallel record, such as the timing of census and tax collection recorded in the gospels.

    2) There is no reason to believe that those literate writing 100 to 200+ years after Jesus did not know most of the events, places and people of the time of Jesus.

    3) All the historical records cited in the video are late, third hand, and of questionable provenance such as Josephus' writings.

    3}Absolutely no text has been found within 100 years of the life of Jesus. I am being generous here, because the texts found are even later.
    For the third time, this was dealt with, 4 months ago, upthread. Repeating your objections doesn't make them any more valid. Go back to sleep, Frank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    For the third time, this was dealt with, 4 months ago, upthread. Repeating your objections doesn't make them any more valid. Go back to sleep, Frank.
    For the third time:

    No it was not, and again NO original texts, and abundant evidence that the text of the gospels represent an evolved edited text, without known author. This true for some of the letters.

    It was only dealt with by an assertion of belief, and not evidence. It is a fallacy to use the text to prove the text when there is no evidence.

    Hand waves do not count. This is Archaeology 201, which begs for archaeological evidence.

    The objections to the claims of the original video have been made and documented.

    1) The New Testament was set in history history of the time, and like all ancient scripture contain known events, people and places, but based on this they cannot be concluded to be completely accurate. Not all events are known by current archaeology evidence of parallel record, such as the timing of census and tax collection recorded in the gospels.

    2) There is no reason to believe that those literate writing 100 to 200+ years after Jesus did not know most of the events, places and people of the time of Jesus.

    3) All the historical records cited in the video are late, third hand, and of questionable provenance such as Josephus' writings.

    3}Absolutely no text has been found within 100 years of the life of Jesus. I am being generous here, because the texts found are even later.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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