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    My brief (and polemical) thought about Christianity...

    Dear Twebbers,

    Christian doctrine cannot be true. First off, there are dozens, hundreds of Christian doctrines which are mutually exclusive. Two, they are full of contradictions. And third, because truth is the relation between description and that which is described. Well, a large chunk of Christian doctrine is about Christian doctrine. Thus, it is self-referential and leads nowhere.

    Comments?
    Last edited by Seeker; 08-19-2019 at 07:36 AM.

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    Jesus is Lord.
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Jesus is Lord.
    To be honest, I was expecting some sort of debate. I apologize if I posted this in the wrong section -- please move it if necessary.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker View Post
    To be honest, I was expecting some sort of debate. I apologize if I posted this in the wrong section -- please movie it if necessary.

    Cheers!
    The description is "Apologetics Lite. Open and very polite discussion on theism. Must be able to play well with others".

    You and I have both been polite.
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    I don't quite see a problem with an observation that Christian doctrine is wrong ... as long as you don't mean that the gospel is wrong.

    If we are saved by having totally correct doctrine, we all are in trouble.

    If we misunderstand a math book, this doesn't mean that math itself is wrong. We just goofed up somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    The description is "Apologetics Lite. Open and very polite discussion on theism. Must be able to play well with others".

    You and I have both been polite.
    Fair enough. But maybe I should have posted this in the Apologetics section. Sorry, will do better next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhitney View Post
    I don't quite see a problem with an observation that Christian doctrine is wrong ... as long as you don't mean that the gospel is wrong.

    If we are saved by having totally correct doctrine, we all are in trouble.

    If we misunderstand a math book, this doesn't mean that math itself is wrong. We just goofed up somewhere.
    Speaking personally as a skeptic, I don't see how saying that the Gospel is wrong can be ''wrong''. I am obviously open to that possibility as well. And yes, it's a possible extension of my comment.

    Thanks for your comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker View Post
    To be honest, I was expecting some sort of debate. I apologize if I posted this in the wrong section -- please move it if necessary.

    Cheers!
    If you want debate, maybe post something substantive? All I see in the OP is an assertion which is on the face of it absurd. "Hundreds of doctrines which are mutually exclusive?" Your opinion is duly noted and filed with those not sufficiently interesting to discuss.
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    You will need to provide specifics if you expect any sort of cogent response.

    Otherwise: I have found Christianity to be true, and it's doctrines and beliefs to be also true and valuable to not only this life but the one to come.

    There. Battling opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker View Post
    Dear Twebbers,

    Christian doctrine cannot be true. First off, there are dozens, hundreds of Christian doctrines which are mutually exclusive.
    Non sequitur.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker View Post
    Two, they are full of contradictions.
    I'd have to see what you had in mind for that. This is simply a vague assertion as is.

    And third, because truth is the relation between description and that which is described. Well, a large chunk of Christian doctrine is about Christian doctrine. Thus, it is self-referential and leads nowhere.
    ...what?
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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