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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckles View Post
    This is almost too easy.
    Of course it's easy when you ignore the fact that your own source contradicts you.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    And since you have not understood it properly, I will quote the text again:

    Because of the greatness of the name of God, any use of God's name that brings dishonor on Him or on His character is taking His name in vain. The third of the Ten Commandments forbids taking or using the Lord's name in an irreverent manner because that would indicate a lack of respect for God Himself.
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    God's name isn't "God"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Of course it's easy when you ignore the fact that your own source contradicts you.
    Again you are unable to show how. I showed it contradicted you. You cut that out of the quote and now you are just making a claim with nothing to support it. Interesting.
    "This is why in my debates with atheists and agnostics I always try to treat them with charity and civility and not engage in name-calling or insults or even just interruptions. I think that is uncivil discourse." - Dr. William Lane Craig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckles View Post
    ...you are unable to show how.
    I showed you precisely how.

    http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post668803
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Nope. You showed no contridiction in that post. You claimed it supported your view. However, you had changed a bit in your original statement (conveniently). It still however clearly showed that his interpretation was not as narrow as your was. And I have showed all of this in here: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post668809
    "This is why in my debates with atheists and agnostics I always try to treat them with charity and civility and not engage in name-calling or insults or even just interruptions. I think that is uncivil discourse." - Dr. William Lane Craig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckles View Post
    However, you had changed a bit in your original statement (conveniently).
    The only thing I changed was the word "it" to explicitly state what "it" was referring to. It didn't change the substance of my original statement despite your implication that I was being deceptive.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
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    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    Cafeteria interpretations like those of Dave Miller, Ph.D.:
    I've never heard of Dave Miller, and his Ph.D in Rhetoric and Public Address doesn't seem too relevant, but digging into this the eminent Old Testament scholar Victor P. Hamilton summaries things this way,

    "In sum, the third commandment cautions against using the Lord's name falsely to buttress a truth claim that is fabricated. By extension, it prohibits any use of the holy name that is without any real significance, any trivializing of the Tetragrammaton. I am not sure whether biblical Israel has any concept of "cussing" or using a collection of "four-letter words," but it is not a misunderstanding of this commandment to bring it to bear on the pervasive use today of "O my God" in every imaginable situation."

    He goes on to say that he doesn't think that the commandment can be limited to only "verbal turpitude of some sort," but that it also extends to the concept of being a carrier or bearer of the name of "the Lord your God."

    So, yeah, ultimately it looks like Miller agrees with Hamilton. Personally, I think Bill's statement is a little light on the "name in vain" scale. He didn't utter it as a cuss or curse, but as an exclamation of awe or exasperation...still, it's something Christians should look to avoid, especially if/when it is tied to an insult as it was here.

    Just my two cents.

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    Black poverty hits record low in the Trump economy.

    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...w-under-trump/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Black poverty hits record low in the Trump economy.

    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...w-under-trump/
    That is a good thing ... but it's a natural consequence of a good economy - for everyone. So you could say that about any subgroup, or any good economy.

    I would say that the ONLY reason breitbart is reporting this is because Trump's approval rating with African-Americans is almost non-existent.

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    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    That is a good thing ... but it's a natural consequence of a good economy - for everyone. So you could say that about any subgroup, or any good economy.

    I would say that the ONLY reason breitbart is reporting this is because Trump's approval rating with African-Americans is almost non-existent.

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    It's where it has always been - hovering right at 25%


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