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    Is this another thing y'all haven't even read yet?
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    I gave up reading for next year's Lent.



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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Is this another thing y'all haven't even read yet?
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    I'm always still in trouble again

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    "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery.”

    So... they are saying that slavery was a good thing then, since it made America exceptional?




    This is what happens when people are so invested in racism that they see it in everything and view all of history through racist lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    "In the days and weeks to come, we will publish essays demonstrating that nearly everything that has made America exceptional grew out of slavery.”

    So... they are saying that slavery was a good thing then, since it made America exceptional?




    This is what happens when people are so invested in racism that they see it in everything and view all of history through racist lenses.
    No, they're saying that America doesn't deserve its success because it was (supposedly) built on the institution of slavery. It's basically the same attitude that Obama brought to the White House when one of his first acts as president was to travel around the world and grovel before foreign leaders while begging the forgiveness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    No, they're saying that America doesn't deserve its success because it was (supposedly) built on the institution of slavery. It's basically the same attitude that Obama brought to the White House when one of his first acts as president was to travel around the world and grovel before foreign leaders while begging the forgiveness.
    I know that

    I was just doing the same thing they were and reframing history.

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    I need to read up on this. Katelyn Beaty (recent editor of Christianity Today) has been glowing about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I need to read up on this. Katelyn Beaty (recent editor of Christianity Today) has been glowing about it.
    Please do, and tell us what we're missing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Is this another thing y'all haven't even read yet?
    I skimmed through a few essays. It's HEAVILY anachronistic. Absolutely brimming with "correlation proves causation" fallacy. And makes a number of unprovable or debatable assertions. Most of the essays I skimmed were essentially racist and unfounded diatribes against white Americans. What's unfortunate is that it does touch on some fascinating history that Americans should be aware of and sensitive to, but it's absolutely spoiled by its presentation. Material like this will result in zero net positive effect on the American public. Its only purpose is to create further division along racial lines.

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