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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    That's because you worship the same false Messiah.
    No, more like "the enemy of my enemy...." It's just another opportunity to call those who are Trump supporters in his eyes unChristian.
    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      That's because you worship the same false Messiah.
      There you go. Example #1
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        No, more like "the enemy of my enemy...." It's just another opportunity to call those who are Trump supporters in his eyes unChristian.
        Are you sure you have it right as to who is calling who 'unChristian'. See above.

        I do not consider any of you that name the name of Christ but also support Trump as 'not Christian'. And I've never said ( or even thought) that any of you worship a 'false Messiah'. I think you are mistaken in some of your choices or some of your ideas. But that is a very, very long way from what MM just did.

        Jim
        Last edited by oxmixmudd; 08-28-2019, 08:45 AM.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          Are you sure you have it right as to who is calling who 'unChristian'. See above.

          I do not consider any of you that name the name of Christ but also support Trump as 'not Christian'.
          I've certainly gotten that impression from several of your posts here, or I would not have made the allegation. Thank you for the clarification.
          And I've never said ( or even thought) that any of you worship a 'false Messiah'. I think you are mistaken in some of your choices or some of your ideas. But that is a very, very long way from what MM just did.

          Jim
          I disagree with MM's charge.
          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

          Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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          I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            That's because you worship the same false Messiah.
            I personally know ox. I can verify that he does not worship a false Messiah.
            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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            • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              There you go. Example #1
              I'm not sure what you think it's an example of, but the Jesus you worship is apparently a pushover who never says a harsh word, never insults, never says anything that could make someone feel bad, and shields unrepentant lawbreakers from the consequences of their actions.

              Sorry, but that's not the Jesus I see when I read the New Testament.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                I personally know ox. I can verify that he does not worship a false Messiah.
                I concede that I may be mistaken, but I can only go by what I see in the forums.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  I'm not sure what you think it's an example of, but the Jesus you worship is apparently a pushover who never says a harsh word, never insults, never says anything that could make someone feel bad, and shields unrepentant lawbreakers from the consequences of their actions.

                  Sorry, but that's not the Jesus I see when I read the New Testament.
                  MM - we often see what we want to see. When we learn and when we grow is when our eyes are opened to see the character aspects of Jesus we'd really rather not see. The character that forces us to change.

                  Ive never advocated for most of what you claim above. So you should probably take some time to try to understand why you would see what i have said in the way you have portrayed it.



                  Jim
                  My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                  If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                  This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                  • Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    I personally know ox. I can verify that he does not worship a false Messiah.
                    Thanks.

                    Jim
                    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                      MM - we often see what we want to see. When we learn and when we grow is when our eyes are opened to see the character aspects of Jesus we'd really rather not see. The character that forces us to change.

                      Ive never advocated for most of what you claim above. So you should probably take some time to try to understand why you would see what i have said in the way you have portrayed it.



                      Jim
                      Physician, heal thyself.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        I've certainly gotten that impression from several of your posts here, or I would not have made the allegation. Thank you for the clarification.

                        I disagree with MM's charge.
                        Thanks,

                        I feel I need to add, however, that the accusation was aimed at both sam and myself. And I do not believe the deserves that accusation any more than I do.

                        Jim
                        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          Physician, heal thyself.
                          Are you sure you want to be identifying yourself with that quote?

                          Jim
                          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                            I do not believe he deserves that accusation any more than I do.
                            I'm certain the pharisees didn't think they deserved to be called out either.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                              I do not consider any of you that name the name of Christ but also support Trump as 'not Christian'.
                              No, you just openly question whether or not Christian Trump supporters are living consistently with our faith, which effectively amounts to the same thing.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Who among us can forget those Buddy-Moses Pharisees and their notorious disregard for purity laws in their zealous pursuit of social justice and advocacy for the poor and marginalized?

                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                I'm certain the pharisees didn't think they deserved to be called out either.
                                "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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