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    August 19, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — Planned Parenthood, America’s largest abortion vendor, announced today it has officially dropped out of the Title X program and will forgo nearly $60 million in taxpayer funding rather than comply with a Trump administration rule requiring that it separate its abortions from the rest of its operations.
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pl...oting-abortion
    Last edited by demi-conservative; 08-21-2019, 04:06 AM.
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  • #2
    Wow, he made Planned Parenthood defund themselves!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      Wow, he made Planned Parenthood defund themselves!
      They have, therein, admitted that abortion is their core business.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        They have, therein, admitted that abortion is their core business.
        This is pleasantly surprising...

        The Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday denied the organization's request to reverse its order allowing the Trump administration's Title X abortion clinic-referral restriction to go into effect, in a blow for abortion rights activists. A panel of 11 judges on the Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals last month upheld the court's prior ruling to temporarily allow the DHS rule to go into effect.


        If the baby killers can't win with the Ninth Circuit, no wonder they dropped out!
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          They have, therein, admitted that abortion is their core business.
          Have they ever really denied it?
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            Have they ever really denied it?
            Sure, they tried to pretend they were all about "women's health" -- and abortion was only a small part of their 'business'.

            Don't you remember when they claimed that abortion was only 3% of the services they provided?

            Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.

            Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:

            4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
            3.6 million contraception related services
            935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
            1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services

            However, critics of the 3 percent figure note that an abortion isn’t equivalent to other individual services, such as giving out condoms or providing pregnancy tests.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              And...

              Here are the top myths Planned Parenthood peddles that are debunked by information from its own annual report.

              1.) Abortion is just 3 percent of Planned Parenthood’s business.

              This statistic has been rated false by left-leaning outlets, including Slate and the Washington Post. The claim rests on a deceptive tactic: calculating abortion procedures as a fraction of its “services” — defined by the group as “discrete clinical interactions” — rather than as a fraction of its clients.

              Take an example. A woman walks into a Planned Parenthood clinic. She takes a pregnancy test, meets with a counselor, and chooses to have an abortion procedure. While she’s there, she also receives an STI test and a breast exam and is handed birth control on her way out the door. Planned Parenthood would count each of these “discrete interactions” — six in total — as a service, so abortion would be only 16 percent of that woman’s visit.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    They have, therein, admitted that abortion is their core business.
                    Big time.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Sure, they tried to pretend they were all about "women's health" -- and abortion was only a small part of their 'business'.

                      Don't you remember when they claimed that abortion was only 3% of the services they provided?

                      Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.

                      Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:

                      4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
                      3.6 million contraception related services
                      935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
                      1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services

                      However, critics of the 3 percent figure note that an abortion isn’t equivalent to other individual services, such as giving out condoms or providing pregnancy tests.


                      And...
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Even the reliably liberal Washington Post's "Fact Checker" took PP to task for their claim that abortions only account for 3% of what they do.


                      Planned Parenthood’s ‘three percent’

                      When all services are counted equally, abortion procedures do account for 3 percent of Planned Parenthood’s total services.

                      But there are obvious differences between these services. For example, a first trimester abortion can cost up to $1,500, according to the Planned Parenthood Web site. Yet an emergency contraceptive pill costs around $45 and a urine pregnancy test costs around $10 at a pharmacy. An abortion is a different type of procedure than a vasectomy, or testing for sexually transmitted infections or diseases, or a vaccine for human papilloma virus (HPV), and so forth.

                      While each service is listed separately, many clients received multiple services. A woman may get a pregnancy test, birth control and a pap smear, but she would be counted three times, once for each service, in the annual report.

                      Those who oppose abortion rights have criticized this definition, saying the 3 percent figure misleads the public. In a recent New York Post op-ed, National Review editor Rich Lowry wrote a series of analogies to argue that the 3 percent figure “is crafted to obscure the reality of Planned Parenthood’s business:”
                      Such cracked reasoning could be used to obscure the purpose of any organization.

                      The sponsors of the New York City Marathon could count each small cup of water they hand out (some 2 million cups, compared with 45,000 runners) and say they are mainly in the hydration business.

                      Or Major League Baseball teams could say that they sell about 20 million hot dogs and play 2,430 games in a season, so baseball is only .012 percent of what they do.

                      Supporters of Planned Parenthood want to use its health services as leverage to preserve its abortions, as if you can’t get one without the other.

                      Of course, this is nonsense.

                      Slate’s Rachael Larimore, the left-leaning online magazine’s conservative senior editor, called this the “most meaningless abortion statistic ever.


                      As Larimore put it

                      Amanda, it’s been so long since I’ve seen a reference to the claim that abortions make up only 3 percent of the services that Planned Parenthood provides that I thought maybe they’d stopped trying. It might not be a technically incorrect number, but it is meaningless—to the point of being downright silly— for several reasons. Not the least of which being that Planned Parenthood “unbundles” all of its services so that a pack of pills, an STD test and an exam are three separate services.

                      Undoubtedly, some of those services are cheaper than others: To illustrate this, let’s make a comparison with an actual business. Say I open a watch store. I sell lots of those cheap plastic digital ones that you can get at discount stores. And I sell some Timex and Casio, and also some nicer designer watches. But then I also keep a few superexpensive Brightlings and Patek Phillipes in stock. And maybe those only make up 3 percent of my sales. But selling only a handful of fancy watches brings in far more than 3 percent of my REVENUES. And so it is with abortion.

                      It’s impossible to know how much money Planned Parenthood brings in for abortion. Because as specific as the annual report is about the number of services it provides, it’s far less detailed when talking about where its revenue comes from (They are within their rights, so whatever). But it’s easy to calculate, as the Weekly Standard did, that Planned Parenthood gets at least a third of its clinic income—and more than 10 percent of all its revenue, government funding included—from its abortion procedures.

                      Ask anyone who runs a for-profit business or nonprofit charity if something that brings in one-third of their revenue is “central” to their endeavor, and the answer is likely to be yes. So yes, abortion is central to what Planned Parenthood does. There ARE a few things that aren’t central to their purpose though. As compared with the nearly 334,000 abortions that Planned Parenthood provided in 2011, 28,674 women received prenatal services. And 2,300 were referred to adoption agencies.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        Wow, he made Planned Parenthood defund themselves!
                        He did what 'real conservatives' could not.
                        Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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