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Trump proclaims himself 'the chosen one' and tweets claims he is 'the messiah'
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI take it as him saying that his ideas are right and good, but it is up to him to express them in a way that helps others to realize it. But he uses language that can imply God or heaven itself is the one opening the eyes of the person to help them see that his ideas are true. So he is clearly seeing himself as a messenger of absolute truth, and I can see that would be very concerning to those that don't see his message that way.
Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBut its still at least a few steps down from embracing and internalizing the idea one is 'the chosen one'. And Obama in general is approaching all of these things as a group effort, with himself occupying more of a civil servant role in implementing these things, as opposed to Trump's view of himself as THE implementer and mover, a king like point of view.
One can also argue for each it is figurative language and does not reflect actual beliefs about themselves, but no matter how you slice it, Trump takes it farther. And Trump discards all the baggage of it being some sort of group effort, always edging more and more towards a supreme ruler conceptualization of the presidency.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostIm done with you in this thread. This is getting personal, and i will not go there anymore.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe MSM were some of the biggest supporters of his being some sort of Messiah
When even Snopes calls B.S. on the Trump calling himself the "chosen one" being a serious statement and not done "tongue-in-cheek" (their description) even you should pay attention.He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostLinks please.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHe felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThat must be why Obama's approval ratings were consistently higher than Trump's.
And, as usual, you are wrong. There have been several times that Trump's approval ratings were higher than Obama's at the same time period of their presidencies -- most notably around the time that Obamacare was being pushed through. And that's quite a feat considering how the MSM acted as a Praetorian Guard for Obama, screening out any and all criticism (proclaiming that any disagreements over policy was racist) and heaping lavish praise on him in comparison to the 24/7 attacks on any and everything Trump does.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI'd like to see those comments taken into context in a speech. "A light coming down" phrasing doesn't strike me as especially Messianic. It's not much different than saying something like, "a light bulb will go on above your head."Last edited by rogue06; 08-25-2019, 06:04 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI guess that's your bizarre and twisted way of admitting that the MSM did see Obama as being the Obamessiah
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachels.../#56751ec513f8He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostLeaving aside your standard tu quoque logical fallacy (but, but, but, whatabout Obama/Hillary) Trump is the president with the lowest average approval rating of all U.S. presidents of all time. Although Trumps approval rating hasnt dipped lower than past U.S. presidents, he is also the first to never have an approval rating exceed 50%.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachels.../#56751ec513f8Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhich is pretty impressive when you consider the extreme measures the media has taken to suppress President Trump's popularity as much as they possibly can. One wonders how high his approval rating would be if they spent more time covering his many considerable accomplishments, or even gave him the same fawning 24/7 praise they lavished on Obama!
So is it Trump, or is it reporting what Trump does, or is it media bias over emphasising the negative things trump does? Does the media over emphasize what trump does, or is he so over the top that it only feels like that , especially to those that are blind to the deep outrage his excess evokes in those not inclined to dismiss or excuse it.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostSo is it Trump, or is it reporting what Trump does, or is it media bias over emphasising the negative things trump does?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhich is pretty impressive when you consider the extreme measures the media has taken to suppress President Trump's popularity as much as they possibly can.
One wonders how high his approval rating would be if they spent more time covering his many considerable accomplishments, or even gave him the same fawning 24/7 praise they lavished on ObamaHe felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
The Murdoch's and the Mercer's, vis-a-vis Fox and Breitbart et al, more than take up the slack
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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