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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Yep... the response from the left couldn't be any more off the rails, and Trump knows exactly where to poke them to keep them squealing!
    Nope - he's pretty much just LOCO.


    Jim
    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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    • #17
      Originally posted by mossrose View Post
      Who cares if he's projecting anti-Semitism? He's just trying to keep up with most of the Democrats these days.

      And I thought Obama was the messiah.

      AFAIK, Obama never accepted the moniker or called direct attention to it himself. It is one thing to have people praise you like that and not rebuff them. Quite another to accept it, relish it, and tell other people about it and how wonderful it is.

      Jim
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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      • #18
        No - that was pretty weird too, and I thought he should have made some comment about it being ridiculous. But he never OWNED it like Trump just did.

        And I pretty much predicted those that regard trump as their own messiah (little 'm', savior from 'the liberals') would dismiss it as a joke.

        ... just like many did the offer to buy Greenland a few days ago.

        Now you are all saying how horrible Denmark was for not treating him nice over it.

        Is that what you'll do if this is not a Joke - demand we all acknowledge he really IS the 'chosen one', the second coming?


        Jim

        ETA: Oh wow! I hadn't seen the second page with all the flashbacks to Obame. I called it 100%

        But alas (for you) Obama never actually proclaimed himself 'the chosen one'.
        Last edited by oxmixmudd; 08-22-2019, 04:28 PM.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • #19
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          No - that was pretty weird to, and I thought he should have made some comment about it being ridiculous. But he never OWNED it like Trump just did.

          And I pretty much predicted those that regard trump as Messiah would dismiss it as a joke.

          ... just like many did the offer to buy Greenland a few days ago.

          Now you are all saying how horrible Denmark was for not treating him nice over it.

          Is that what you'll do if this is not a Joke - demand we all acknowledge he really IS the 'chosen one', the second coming?


          Jim
          And you wonder why you don't have friends.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
            No - that was pretty weird too, and I thought he should have made some comment about it being ridiculous. But he never OWNED it like Trump just did.

            And I pretty much predicted those that regard trump as their own messiah (little 'm', savior from 'the liberals') would dismiss it as a joke.

            ... just like many did the offer to buy Greenland a few days ago.

            Now you are all saying how horrible Denmark was for not treating him nice over it.

            Is that what you'll do if this is not a Joke - demand we all acknowledge he really IS the 'chosen one', the second coming?


            Jim
            Do you think Trump is the antichrist/beast described in Revelation?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              AFAIK, Obama never accepted the moniker or called direct attention to it himself.
              He just referred to himself dozens of times in his own speeches, even when he was giving a stump speech for another candidate.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #22
                It gets really old when the only defense anybody has to anything about Trump is to pull out a tu quoque about Obama that isn't even applicable. Obama was arrogant but his statements did not have the specific religious context. The term "chosen one" is often used in a flippant way, like its being a nickname of LeBron James.

                I'm not going to link because of paywall, but Texas evangelist Jay Lowder had an op-ed in the Washington Post comparing this case to Herod being killed by an angel because he did not demur when somebody proclaimed him to be a god. He thinks that should be a warning in cases like this.

                (The part of me that is open to futurism thinks Trump obviously doesn't meet the criteria to be the antichrist, though.)
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                  It gets really old when the only defense anybody has to anything about Trump is to pull out a tu quoque about Obama that isn't even applicable. Obama was arrogant but his statements did not have the specific religious context.

                  I'm not going to link because of paywall, but Texas evangelist Jay Lowder had an op-ed in the Washington Post comparing this case to Herod being killed by an angel because he did not demur when somebody proclaimed him to be a god. He thinks that should be a warning in cases like this.

                  (The part of me that is open to futurism thinks Trump obviously doesn't meet the criteria to be the antichrist, though.)
                  I'm just amazed that so many people allow Trump to live rent-free in their heads. He lives for that!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    And you wonder why you don't have friends.
                    Can't take a little teasing CP?

                    Jim
                    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      Do you think Trump is the antichrist/beast described in Revelation?
                      The antichrist is supposed to win over nearly the entire population. A quick look at Trump's approval rating would rule that out.

                      Also, Daniel 11:37 is often thought to refer to the antichrist, and says the figure will have no regard for the love of women. If this is correct in referring to the antichrist (which I'm not sure of), it would mean he is either asexual or gay.
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                        Can't take a little teasing CP?

                        Jim
                        Perhaps if there were any indication you were teasing....
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          I'm just amazed that so many people allow Trump to live rent-free in their heads. He lives for that!
                          Lowder's op-ed says his evangelism across the country has been hurt because college students are pointing to hypocrisy of Christians in putting up with this and he just doesn't have an answer.

                          I can ignore a lot of things but I'm not going to ignore somebody making blasphemous religious statements. I'm kind of sad that a theology forum doesn't seem particularly bothered by this.
                          "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                            Lowder's op-ed says his evangelism across the country has been hurt because college students are pointing to hypocrisy of Christians in putting up with this and he just doesn't have an answer.

                            I can ignore a lot of things but I'm not going to ignore somebody making blasphemous religious statements. I'm kind of sad that a theology forum doesn't seem particularly bothered by this.
                            Christians have always been hypocritical to one extent or another. If an evangelist doesn't have an answer for that, then he's not much of an evangelist.

                            And in this case, it would only be blasphemy, I think, if Trump genuinely believed it, but he clearly meant it as a joke. Unlike Herod, I doubt he really believes he's a deity.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #29
                              I reject Trump reposting someone's else's tweet calling him the King of Israel.

                              I hope everyone is happy now.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                And in this case, it would only be blasphemy, I think, if Trump genuinely believed it, but he clearly meant it as a joke. Unlike Herod, I doubt he really believes he's a deity.
                                There are some things Christians shouldn't joke about. I wouldn't joke about being a god. I became visually uncomfortable when somebody said something like that about me once, even though it was lighthearted. Since Trump professes to be a Christian, it matters.
                                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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