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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Do you think they should also have their right to own firearms restored as well?
    No, but the Second Amendment is written relatively broadly. I interpret it to refer to protecting the general right of gun ownership and not necessarily of each individual citizen, so I believe that current laws restricting felon ownership still are compatible with the spirit of the Constitution. I'd restrict it to violent felons, though. There's no reason somebody convicted of felony fraud shouldn't be able to have a gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Do you think they should also have their right to own firearms restored as well?
    I do - but only grudgingly because I'm trying to avoid blatant hypocrisy...

    But under the same caveat as I mentioned for voting rights. Full membership in society is granted only once - thereafter it must be earned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post

    But under the same caveat as I mentioned for voting rights. Full membership in society is granted only once - thereafter it must be earned.
    I will admit that this creates a viable philosophical case for not automatically restoring voting rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    thief = unlicensed borrower
    Can we just call a bank robbery a "surprise withdrawal"?

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    I know at least one person in AZ who calls prisons "secure care"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    No, but the Second Amendment is written relatively broadly. I interpret it to refer to protecting the general right of gun ownership and not necessarily of each individual citizen, so I believe that current laws restricting felon ownership still are compatible with the spirit of the Constitution. I'd restrict it to violent felons, though. There's no reason somebody convicted of felony fraud shouldn't be able to have a gun.
    That would make it the only "collective right" in the Bill of Rights -- a view that that wasn't even dreamed up until the 20th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    That would make it the only "collective right" in the Bill of Rights -- a view that that wasn't even dreamed up until the 20th century.
    It seems to be in the spirit of the amendment, which mentioned a formal militia for the greater good. Either way, I would argue we have strayed from the original intention.
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