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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Even if we eliminate petroleum as a fuel, it is still has a LOT of uses: lubricants, plastics, asphalt, paint, and more. Not all are putting CO2 into the atmosphere. I don't think oil companies are going to disappear if we stop using fossil fuels.
    No, but they would lose about 75% of their current business.

    EDIT: to be more clear - the oil companies are just one facet of this. We haven't priced in sea level rise to our housing market. We haven't priced in rising temperatures in our wine growing regions. We haven't priced in drought into major agricultural regions like California. I suspect we're going to keep doing a "we must rebuild!" until we either get exhausted by it or run out of the money to do it.

    I admit to being pessimistic about this, but humanity's given me good reason to be a pessimist, i'm afraid.
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    The 20019 UN Climatethe global warming increase change reports came to the same conclusion I have expressed in recent years. The UN did the math and concluded that we cannot stop global warming, but we should continue with efforts to reduce Global Warming causes. See here:

    We cannot stop the effects in terms of rising sea level and we cannot stand in front of the train and stop it, but the UN reports proposed we prepare to take advantage of changing climate in their Economic Report. The economic report focusing on developing strategies adapt to the changing climate.


    Map of action

    Investigate factors that affect economy and climate from an interactive regional perspective, filtering various impacts.

    We are entering a new era of economic growth. This approach can deliver growth that is strong, sustainable, balanced, and inclusive. It is driven by the interaction between rapid technological innovation, sustainable infrastructure investment, and increased resource productivity.

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    At the heart of this new approach to growth are liveable, compact cities which have an economic dynamism that can attract creative talent, companies, and capital while higher densities enable cheaper service delivery and avoid costly urban sprawl. Powering the new growth will be affordable, clean, energy systems and can expand energy access to the more than a billion people that currently lack it, replicating and amplifying the impact of mobile telephony on equitable growth. Agriculture and forests can become a third engine of economic growth, delivering greater food security, more nutritious food, greater rural prosperity and more equitable growth, strengthened resilience, and valuable ecosystem services. Industrial sectors, now waking up to the potential of the circular economy, will radically cut the demand for energy-intensive primary materials, driving up both material productivity and cutting waste.

    This new growth approach will deliver higher productivity, more resilient economies and greater social inclusion. The poorest do not benefit from the current low-productivity agriculture nor from landslides resulting from deforestation. They do not benefit from inefficient cities where daily commutes often take hours a day, exposed to highly-polluted air. The poor are those most exposed to the impacts of climate change, with just one bad weather season having the potential to push low-income families below the poverty line.
    This new approach is the only economic growth path that is sustainable. It is the growth story of the 21st century.
    This new growth approach will deliver higher productivity, more resilient economies and greater social inclusion.

    In 2014, the flagship report of the Global Commission on Economy and Climate conclusively showed that higher quality growth can be combined with strong climate action.

    The evidence today of the potential economic benefits are even greater than before; and the downside risks of inaction on climate change are even more stark.
    Leading companies and investors are already getting behind this new approach, creating a new competitive race. So too are ambitious policy-makers.
    The decisions we take over the next 2-3 years are crucial because of the urgency of a changing climate and the unique window of unprecedented structural changes already underway. The world is expected to invest about US$90 trillion on infrastructure in the period up to 2030, more than the entire current stock today. Much of this investment will be programmed in the next few years.

    This is our ‘use it or lose it’ moment. Investing the US$90 trillion to build the right infrastructure now will deliver a new era of economic growth. Investing it wisely will help drive innovation, deliver public health benefits, create a host of new jobs and go a long way to tackling the risks of runaway climate change. Getting it wrong, on the other hand, will lock us into a high-polluting, low productivity, and deeply unequal future. For example, the multi-trillion-dollar Belt and Road Initiative will have a significant impact on the shape and sustainability of growth in the over 70 countries in Asia, Africa, and Europe it spans.

    This is our ‘use it or lose it’ moment: the decisions we take over the next 2-3 years will determine our growth and climate future.

    The core proposition of the Global Commission is simple. We can build a better, more people-centred, more resilient growth model by accelerating structural transformation in five key economic systems:

    Clean energy systems: The decarbonisation of power systems combined with decentralised and digitally-enabled electrification technologies can provide access to modern energy services for the billion people who currently lack it; strengthen energy security and reduce exposure to energy price volatility globally; build overall system resilience to increasing natural hazards (especially in vulnerable, small island states); and cut the costs of outdoor air pollution worldwide. The clean energy transition is well underway, driven by market forces and plummeting costs of renewable and storage technologies. The world now adds more renewable power capacity annually than from all fossil fuels combined.1

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