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  • Global Climate change 2019

    Every year recently a thread has been posted concerning the continuing global warming trend. This thread will deal with 2019.


    Source: https://www.space.com/20112-oldest-known-star-universe.html



    July was the hottest month ever on Earth. Now massive wildfires are burning across the globe.

    DENVER – Wildfires are burning across the globe, clogging the sky with smoke from Alaska to the Amazon, and scientists say it's no coincidence that July was the warmest-ever month recorded on Earth.

    The fires have forced evacuations worldwide, most recently on Spain's Canary Islands, where more than 8,000 people have been forced to flee. Smoke from some of the fires is so bad satellites can see it from space, blanketing large portions of South America and the Arctic.

    Climate scientists say the fires are partly the result of a world growing warmer, making it easier for flames to spread.

    “In these conditions, it is easier for wildfires to grow and to be more long-lived,” said Mark Parrington, a senior scientist in the Copernicus Atmosphere Monitoring Service at the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts.


    The Amazon rain forest fires can be seen from space, and NASA can see these fires from space. Veuer’s Keri Lumm reports. Buzz60

    The average global temperature in July was 1.71 degrees F above the 20th-century average of 60.4 degrees, making it the hottest July in the 140-year record, according to scientists at NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information.

    The previous hottest month on record was July 2016. Nine of the 10 hottest recorded Julys have occurred since 2005; the last five years have ranked as the five hottest. Last month was also the 43rd consecutive July and 415th consecutive month with above-average global temperatures.

    Parrington said it's not possible to draw direct connections between hotter weather and more wildfires, citing human activity. For instance, although there are big fires currently burning in the Amazon, the past 20 years have generally seen a reduction in forest fires there, he said. But now the fires are the worst they've been since at least 2010, based on initial data, he said.

    Climate experts say there's always going to be regional variations – the U.S. has had a below-average wildfire year following 2018's deadly blazes across California – but the overall trend is toward more extreme weather fueled by a hotter climate.


    The Arctic's boreal forests are particularly at risk, said Rick Thoman, a climate specialist with the Fairbanks-based Alaska Center for Climate Assessment and Policy. Like Parrington, he said it's not a simple connection between hotter weather and more fires, but said the conditions for fires are growing more frequent in the north.

    "It's a reinforcing loop: The more fires you have, the more land you open up, so in future years you're going to warm that land more because the trees aren't there to shade it, which will in turn melt permafrost, which will then release carbon and methane, which are greenhouse gases, which contribute to warmer summers and more fires," Thoman said.

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    This is not just one very, very hot month, and it reflects the trend for Global warning.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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    And the coolest July was in 2014
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
      This only refers to the Midwest temperatures. Your selective citation of the article and failure to note world conditions is noted. The reasons for the low temperatures in the Midwest were described in the article, and the world wide perspective.

      Source: usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/08/12/cold-july-climate-report/13952947/


      Global climate data for July will be released next Monday, the NCDC reports. The ongoing chill in the U.S. so far this year has not been the case elsewhere on Earth. June was the third straight month that temperatures tied or broke record highs worldwide. Note this reference updates the data for 1914.

      If July turns out to be record warm around the world, it would mark the warmest single month since records began.

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      Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=2014+global+temperatures&oq=2014+global+temperatures&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.19051j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



      Notably, ENSO-neutral conditions were present during all of 2014. The 2014 global average land surface temperature was 1.00°C (1.80°F) above the 20th century average of 8.5°C (47.3°F), the fourth highest annual value on record.

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      Last edited by shunyadragon; 08-23-2019, 06:59 AM.
      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

      go with the flow the river knows . . .

      Frank

      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

      Comment


      • #4
        The whole "Amazon is Burning" news is mostly just scare tactics.

        The Amazon burns every year. And they are only counting the Brazillian fires and claiming it is "record numbers" while ignoring that overall, the fires in the Amazon are at normal or below normal numbers for the year.

        ======================


        Short summary: we have had wild fires for many years now in the Amazon, even in the tropical rainforest - mainly started by humans for forest clearing and ranching. It is not enough to impact significantly on the Paris agreement pledges yet, though it is important in the long term if this continues for decades. This image is being shared even in usually reputable media with captions such as National Geographic's "The Amazon is burning at record rates - and deforestation is to blame". Similarly, the BBC is reporting it as a “record”.

        'Record number of fires' in Brazilian rainforest

        But is it? You would not guess from these headlines that NASA's description for the original photo says that it is burning at less than average rates. Bit of a big difference there. They mention this in the details of the stories but a fair bit down the page.


        The image shows smoke from fires in the Amazon region on 13th August 2019. These are not necessarily all forest fires. Some of these will be fires in pasture to stimulate new growth for the cattle.


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        https://www.science20.com/robert_wal...d_rates-240959

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          The whole "Amazon is Burning" news is mostly just scare tactics.

          The Amazon burns every year. And they are only counting the Brazillian fires and claiming it is "record numbers" while ignoring that overall, the fires in the Amazon are at normal or below normal numbers for the year.

          ======================


          Short summary: we have had wild fires for many years now in the Amazon, even in the tropical rainforest - mainly started by humans for forest clearing and ranching. It is not enough to impact significantly on the Paris agreement pledges yet, though it is important in the long term if this continues for decades. This image is being shared even in usually reputable media with captions such as National Geographic's "The Amazon is burning at record rates - and deforestation is to blame". Similarly, the BBC is reporting it as a “record”.

          'Record number of fires' in Brazilian rainforest

          But is it? You would not guess from these headlines that NASA's description for the original photo says that it is burning at less than average rates. Bit of a big difference there. They mention this in the details of the stories but a fair bit down the page.


          The image shows smoke from fires in the Amazon region on 13th August 2019. These are not necessarily all forest fires. Some of these will be fires in pasture to stimulate new growth for the cattle.


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          https://www.science20.com/robert_wal...d_rates-240959
          Speculation as to what are forest fires and what are pasture fires. The main issue is temperature worldwide, and the worldwide incidence of forest fires for July 2019.

          Again . . .

          Source: Source: [url

          https://www.space.com/20112-oldest-known-star-universe.html][/url]
          Wildfires are burning across the globe, clogging the sky with smoke from Alaska to the Amazon, and scientists say it's no coincidence that July was the warmest-ever month recorded on Earth.

          © Copyright Original Source

          Last edited by shunyadragon; 08-23-2019, 10:03 AM.
          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

          go with the flow the river knows . . .

          Frank

          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
            Speculation as to what are forest fires and what are pasture fires. The main issue is temperature worldwide, and the worldwide incidence of forest fires for July 2019.

            Again . . .

            Source: Source: [url

            https://www.space.com/20112-oldest-known-star-universe.html][/url]
            Wildfires are burning across the globe, clogging the sky with smoke from Alaska to the Amazon, and scientists say it's no coincidence that July was the warmest-ever month recorded on Earth.

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            You can't even get your links right.

            https://www.space.com/20112-oldest-k...-universe.html

            Strange 'Methuselah' Star Looks Older Than the Universe




            The "pasture fires" comment was an aside and not the point.

            The point of the article is that the press is trying to make it sounds like a dire emergency that the Amazon rain forest is burning down and "record number of fires" when the truth is that the Amazon fires over all are LOWER than normal, and that these fires are a yearly occurrence.

            "The Sky is Falling!"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
              This only refers to the Midwest temperatures.
              For full context, NASA tracks global temperatures relative to the period 1951-1980, so after some considerable warming had already taken place. They do show that the last time temperatures were below the '51-'80 average was a July. July of 1985. That means its now been 34 years since the last time we've had a month that was below the typical temperature of when i grew up (I was born in the mid-60s). And nobody under 35 has ever experienced such a month.
              "Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                This only refers to the Midwest temperatures. Your selective citation of the article and failure to note world conditions is noted. The reasons for the low temperatures in the Midwest were described in the article, and the world wide perspective.

                Source: usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/08/12/cold-july-climate-report/13952947/


                Global climate data for July will be released next Monday, the NCDC reports. The ongoing chill in the U.S. so far this year has not been the case elsewhere on Earth. June was the third straight month that temperatures tied or broke record highs worldwide. Note this reference updates the data for 1914.

                If July turns out to be record warm around the world, it would mark the warmest single month since records began.

                © Copyright Original Source



                Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=2014+global+temperatures&oq=2014+global+temperatures&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.19051j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



                Notably, ENSO-neutral conditions were present during all of 2014. The 2014 global average land surface temperature was 1.00°C (1.80°F) above the 20th century average of 8.5°C (47.3°F), the fourth highest annual value on record.

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                Minus the part that tells us how the temperatures were taken. You know, the part that miraculously finds warming where it hadn't been for fifteen years?

                Either scientists were idiots for fifteen years - or they are idiots now.


                Denmark is having a rotting problem...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                  Minus the part that tells us how the temperatures were taken. You know, the part that miraculously finds warming where it hadn't been for fifteen years?
                  What exactly are you referring to?
                  "Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TheLurch View Post
                    What exactly are you referring to?
                    The sudden 'lookie, there was no hiatus' thing - which seems to be where Shuny's article comes from but won't state it clearly enough.

                    To be honest, I'm pretty much done with this. But that may be because I'm feeling rough today.

                    On second thought - I'll come back to this when I feel better and reread the thing.

                    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

                    "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      You can't even get your links right.

                      https://www.space.com/20112-oldest-k...-universe.html

                      Strange 'Methuselah' Star Looks Older Than the Universe




                      The "pasture fires" comment was an aside and not the point.

                      The point of the article is that the press is trying to make it sounds like a dire emergency that the Amazon rain forest is burning down and "record number of fires" when the truth is that the Amazon fires over all are LOWER than normal, and that these fires are a yearly occurrence.

                      "The Sky is Falling!"
                      Sorry for the error. Personal remarks and sarcasm based on a bias against Global warming are not meaningful. The main issue was the global trend of temperatures and fires.
                      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                      go with the flow the river knows . . .

                      Frank

                      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TheLurch View Post
                        For full context, NASA tracks global temperatures relative to the period 1951-1980, so after some considerable warming had already taken place. They do show that the last time temperatures were below the '51-'80 average was a July. July of 1985. That means its now been 34 years since the last time we've had a month that was below the typical temperature of when i grew up (I was born in the mid-60s). And nobody under 35 has ever experienced such a month.
                        I was born in '46 and experienced colder winters in the 50's
                        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                        go with the flow the river knows . . .

                        Frank

                        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                          The sudden 'lookie, there was no hiatus' thing - which seems to be where Shuny's article comes from but won't state it clearly enough.

                          To be honest, I'm pretty much done with this. But that may be because I'm feeling rough today.

                          On second thought - I'll come back to this when I feel better and reread the thing.

                          If you come back cite references accurately and completely.
                          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                          go with the flow the river knows . . .

                          Frank

                          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            More specific complete records up to the present in 2019:

                            Source: https://www.axios.com/temperature-records-set-in-2019-512a1109-99ae-45aa-8953-781ff955c91d.html



                            All the global temperature records broken in 2019, so far

                            Data: NASA GISS; Graphic: Harry Stevens/Axios
                            The world's top 5 warmest years on record have occurred since 2014 — and it's almost certain that 2019 will be added to this list as well.

                            Why it matters: Such trends are indicative of long-term global warming due to human activities such as burning fossil fuels for energy and transportation, cutting down forests for agriculture and other purposes. Only 1 of the top 20 warmest years on record since instrument data began in 1880 took place before the year 2000. With greenhouse gas concentrations in the air at their highest level in 3 million years, the odds favor more record-shattering years in the future.

                            Many countries have been setting new milestones for monthly record warmth, as is the world at large. Here are some of 2019's noteworthy temperature records:

                            Monthly rankings
                            Monthly temperature records are based on estimates from a number of different organizations, including NOAA and NASA.

                            January: Third-warmest January, per NOAA
                            February: Fifth-warmest February, per NOAA
                            March: Third-warmest March
                            NOAA and Europe's Copernicus Climate Service ranked March as the 2nd-warmest on record, while NASA and the Japan Meteorological Agency ranked the month slightly lower as the 3rd-warmest March on record.
                            April: Second-warmest April
                            April saw a global temperature anomaly of 0.99ºC, or 1.8ºF, above the 20th century average, per NASA.
                            July: Passed August 2016 at the hottest-ever month on record by 0.14ºF, according to the NOAA and Europe's Copernicus Climate Service.
                            National records
                            Aside from global trends, some individual continents and countries are setting records of their own. Here are a few national records that have been broken this year, some of which still need to be verified in order to officially enter the record books:

                            Angola saw its hottest temperature ever measured for any month in February.
                            Australia shattered its record for the hottest summer ever, propelling its national average temperature to a new all-time high.
                            January had an average temperature that was 5.2°F (2.91°C) above the 1961–1990 average — the first time any month has topped 86°F (30°C), nationally.
                            Belgium broke its all-time record at 40.6°C (105°F) on July 25.
                            France saw its hottest June day on June 26 with an average high of 94.8°F (34.8°C).
                            France also broke its all-time record of 44.1°C (111.4°F) on June 28 as the temperature rose to 44.3°C (111.7°F) in Carpentras.
                            Germany broke its record of 41.5°C (106.7°F) on July 25, according to the German Weather Service, and reported by DPA News.
                            Kenya saw its highest April temperature on April 20 in Mandera, which hit 41.6ºC (106.88ºF).
                            The Netherlands broke its all-time record on July 25 at 4o.4°C (104.7°F).
                            Poland and Germany each set a new respective June temperature record.
                            Russia set its hottest May temperature on record in Yelabuga at 32.9ºC (91.22ºF) on May 13.
                            Vietnam broke its record for hottest May temperature on May 20 at 42.8ºC (109.04ºF) in Con Cuông.

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                            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                            go with the flow the river knows . . .

                            Frank

                            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              The whole "Amazon is Burning" news is mostly just scare tactics.

                              The Amazon burns every year. And they are only counting the Brazillian fires and claiming it is "record numbers" while ignoring that overall, the fires in the Amazon are at normal or below normal numbers for the year.

                              ======================


                              Short summary: we have had wild fires for many years now in the Amazon, even in the tropical rainforest - mainly started by humans for forest clearing and ranching. It is not enough to impact significantly on the Paris agreement pledges yet, though it is important in the long term if this continues for decades. This image is being shared even in usually reputable media with captions such as National Geographic's "The Amazon is burning at record rates - and deforestation is to blame". Similarly, the BBC is reporting it as a “record”.

                              'Record number of fires' in Brazilian rainforest

                              But is it? You would not guess from these headlines that NASA's description for the original photo says that it is burning at less than average rates. Bit of a big difference there. They mention this in the details of the stories but a fair bit down the page.


                              The image shows smoke from fires in the Amazon region on 13th August 2019. These are not necessarily all forest fires. Some of these will be fires in pasture to stimulate new growth for the cattle.


                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]39242[/ATTACH]
                              https://www.science20.com/robert_wal...d_rates-240959
                              The reference did refer to two issues: (1) The hottest recorded July on record. (2) The increase in fires world wide. Yes the fires in the Amazon were forest and pasture fires, but nonetheless these annual human set fires are a long term issue concerning global warming, but the main issue is the world wide high temperatures in 2019, which was better documented in the later reference.
                              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                              go with the flow the river knows . . .

                              Frank

                              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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