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  • Facebook Pulls Trump Campaign Ads Over Alleged Policy Violations

    By Matt Margolis August 21, 2019

    Earlier this week, Facebook took down several Trump campaign ads over alleged violations of their advertising policies. They must have been terrible, horribly offensive ads, right? Heck, even I thought they must have been tasteless ads that were reasonably taken down... and then I saw one of the offensive ads:



    That's right. The above ad violated Facebook's advertising policies.

    What did this and other offensive Trump ads do that was so terrible? They targeted women. The website Popular Information explains:

    Facebook's advertising guidelines list thirty varieties of prohibited content. Number twelve on the list prohibits ads that target "personal attributes." Facebook says ads must not include "direct or indirect assertions or implications about a person’s... gender identity."

    Trump's ad is clearly prohibited, but Facebook allowed it to run until an inquiry by Popular Information. "We've notified the campaign that the ads violate policy. They can’t continue to run unless fixed," a Facebook spokesperson told Popular Information.

    According to a report from The Hill, it was Popular Information’s inquiry to Facebook that got the ad taken down. A spokesperson for Facebook told The Hill, “We've notified the campaign that the ads violate policy. They cannot continue to run unless fixed.”

    So, let me get this straight. The Trump campaign runs an ad that says "The Women for Trump Coalition needs the support of strong Women like you" and somehow that’s so offensive that it violates Facebook’s ad policies?
    https://pjmedia.com/trending/faceboo...cy-violations/


  • #2
    I'm horribly traumatized by that ad - I need a safe space.

    Shame on you, Sparko, for posting such distasteful tripe!!!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      I'm horribly traumatized by that ad - I need a safe space.

      Shame on you, Sparko, for posting such distasteful tripe!!!

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      • #4
        Am I reading this correctly that the problem is assuming that the ad recipients identify as female? Because I know they allow targeting based on age (you can click on ads to see why you were targeted with that particular ad).

        From a business perspective, this was a mind bogglingly stupid decision. Social media platforms have been facing calls for increased FCC regulation from people on both sides (including Trump) and it sounds like Facebook is trying to make it happen as fast as possible.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          Am I reading this correctly that the problem is assuming that the ad recipients identify as female? Because I know they allow targeting based on age (you can click on ads to see why you were targeted with that particular ad).

          From a business perspective, this was a mind bogglingly stupid decision. Social media platforms have been facing calls for increased FCC regulation from people on both sides (including Trump) and it sounds like Facebook is trying to make it happen as fast as possible.
          Or they're so arrogant they think they can buy the legislators or regulators, and, quite honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they could / did.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            Am I reading this correctly that the problem is assuming that the ad recipients identify as female? Because I know they allow targeting based on age (you can click on ads to see why you were targeted with that particular ad).

            From a business perspective, this was a mind bogglingly stupid decision. Social media platforms have been facing calls for increased FCC regulation from people on both sides (including Trump) and it sounds like Facebook is trying to make it happen as fast as possible.
            If you read the article in the OP, the author goes on to say that part of the form you fill out to place an ad on facebook makes you choose your target audience: All, Male, Female and then their ages. So they actually make you choose your audience but then say you are not allowed to actually target your target audience with your ad?

            I don't buy it. I bet they allow ads for makeup and hair color and other women's products.

            This was just an excuse to deny Trump's campaigns ads. I bet when they get called on it, they will claim it was a mistake made by their AI.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Or they're so arrogant they think they can buy the legislators or regulators, and, quite honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they could / did.
              They are worth billions, so naturally they have many lobbyists.
              Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                I bet when they get called on it, they will claim it was a mistake made by their AI.
                The article says they didn't do it until called out by a magazine, and a spokesperson explained the rationale for the decision, so that eliminates that excuse.

                The Rethinking Hell ministry I'm involved with had its advertising account shut down (it was used to promote the yearly theology conference). We appealed it and were vaguely told that our organization did not promote a positive user experience, and that no further appeal was possible. They might not have liked the fire and brimstone imagery, I'm guessing, and didn't even pick up on the fact that this traditional view is what we don't hold to and that it was used in a somewhat tongue in cheek manner.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #9
                  Surely there are better examples of censorship. Not to 'assume another person's gender' is recently beloved by progressives, so rule number 12 is quite understandable.
                  Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    Am I reading this correctly that the problem is assuming that the ad recipients identify as female? Because I know they allow targeting based on age (you can click on ads to see why you were targeted with that particular ad).

                    From a business perspective, this was a mind bogglingly stupid decision. Social media platforms have been facing calls for increased FCC regulation from people on both sides (including Trump) and it sounds like Facebook is trying to make it happen as fast as possible.
                    But I need all those Viagra ads! How else am I gonna fix my nonexistent male dysfunction?

                    And all those poor men who need female support garments!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      By Matt Margolis August 21, 2019

                      Earlier this week, Facebook took down several Trump campaign ads over alleged violations of their advertising policies. They must have been terrible, horribly offensive ads, right? Heck, even I thought they must have been tasteless ads that were reasonably taken down... and then I saw one of the offensive ads:



                      That's right. The above ad violated Facebook's advertising policies.

                      What did this and other offensive Trump ads do that was so terrible? They targeted women. The website Popular Information explains:

                      Facebook's advertising guidelines list thirty varieties of prohibited content. Number twelve on the list prohibits ads that target "personal attributes." Facebook says ads must not include "direct or indirect assertions or implications about a person’s... gender identity."

                      Trump's ad is clearly prohibited, but Facebook allowed it to run until an inquiry by Popular Information. "We've notified the campaign that the ads violate policy. They can’t continue to run unless fixed," a Facebook spokesperson told Popular Information.

                      According to a report from The Hill, it was Popular Information’s inquiry to Facebook that got the ad taken down. A spokesperson for Facebook told The Hill, “We've notified the campaign that the ads violate policy. They cannot continue to run unless fixed.”

                      So, let me get this straight. The Trump campaign runs an ad that says "The Women for Trump Coalition needs the support of strong Women like you" and somehow that’s so offensive that it violates Facebook’s ad policies?
                      https://pjmedia.com/trending/faceboo...cy-violations/
                      No. The add violates the policy because it targets personal gender attributes. It's a very broadly worded policy, designed to keep abusive adds out no matter how clever the abuser. But as with all broadly worded laws and policies, it is bound to also include some things that are not necessarily bad in and of themselves in the broad net they cast.

                      Jim
                      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                        No. The add violates the policy because it targets personal gender attributes. It's a very broadly worded policy, designed to keep abusive adds out no matter how clever the abuser. But as with all broadly worded laws and policies, it is bound to also include some things that are not necessarily bad in and of themselves in the broad net they cast.

                        Jim
                        It targets a gender, not "personal gender attributes" - That would be like targeting breasts or vaginas, which would include ads for tampons or bras, which I bet Facebook would allow. The policy is stupid and they are just using it to "stop Trump" - I bet a democrat ad talking to women would be allowed.

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                        • #13
                          Another good decision. Trump adverts with any content should be banned.
                          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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