‘Global Temperature’ — Why Should We Trust A Statistic That Might Not Even Exist?

[Cow Poke]

[seer]

Wow!

[Mountain Man]

There's also the fact that there are no temperature monitoring stations throughout many of the coldest parts of the earth largely because those areas of the earth are not easily accessible or hospitable. This significant gap in the data naturally leads to a higher "average".

[Cow Poke]

Ya know, I had a thought....

Here on Tweb, the climate alarmists seem to be people who are pretty much at odds with so many other aspects of discussion on Tweb.

On the other hand, the skeptics include some really good solid logical intelligent people like Sparko.... um, wait, bad example.... ROGUE!!!.... ok, maybe not so much... um.... somebody calm and stable and always reasonable like MM!!!!.... ok, maybe not such a great example. Um..... There's ME!!!... ok, not quite as bad as Rogue, but close...

I think this theory needs more work.

I'll get back to ya later.

[rogue06]

Ya know, I had a thought....

And thus fullfilling your quota for the month.

Here on Tweb, the climate alarmists seem to be people who are pretty much at odds with so many other aspects of discussion on Tweb.

On the other hand, the skeptics include some really good solid logical intelligent people like Sparko.... um, wait, bad example.... ROGUE!!!.... ok, maybe not so much... um.... somebody calm and stable and always reasonable like MM!!!!.... ok, maybe not such a great example. Um..... There's ME!!!... ok, not quite as bad as Rogue, but close...

I think this theory needs more work.

I'll get back to ya later.

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And I consider myself to be pretty much on the fence about this. I tend to be somewhat skeptical of what both sides claim.

[rogue06]

Here on Tweb, the climate alarmists seem to be people who are pretty much at odds with so many other aspects of discussion on Tweb.

And then there is this (which was where I thought you were headed):

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[oxmixmudd]

Fails the smell test. Or would you say that the average surface temperature on Venus being around 900 degrees Fahrenheit is 'meaningless' relative to the average temperature of the Earth? Or that the average surface temperature of Mars being -81 F is 'meaningless' relative to the Earth?

No, the average surface temperature does have meaning, especially when the same measurement taken over time shows a clear and unrelenting increase. The issue here is does it represent same sort of thing as taking the temperature of you food while it is cooking. No, it does not have that sort of meaning. But it does tell us if over time the average air land and sea temperatures are increasing, staying the same, or decreasing.

Jim

[Mountain Man]

...somebody calm and stable and always reasonable like MM!!!!.... ok, maybe not such a great example.

Hey!!! I'm always CALM AND REASONABLE, you pea brained, dunce cap wearing IGNORAMUS!!!!!

[Mountain Man]

...the same measurement taken over time shows a clear and unrelenting increase.

Except it's not the same measurement. There are far fewer temperature stations now than in years past, many of those stations are no longer optimally placed due to urban expansion, huge swaths of the earth have no temperature stations (notably many of the earth's coldest regions), and the data, including the historic record, has been "adjusted" so many times that it is now thoroughly corrupted and untrustworthy.

[Cow Poke]

Hey!!! I'm always CALM AND REASONABLE, you pea brained, dunce cap wearing IGNORAMUS!!!!!

I can see that!

[Cow Poke]

And thus fullfilling your quota for the month.

Actually, I had one last week, too, but next week starts a whole 'nuther month!

[One Bad Pig]

And I consider myself to be pretty much on the fence about this. I tend to be somewhat skeptical of what both sides claim.

Same here. That gets us the "climate denier" label, however.

[One Bad Pig]

Actually, I had one last week, too, but next week starts a whole 'nuther month!

Did it hurt?

[Cow Poke]

Did it hurt?

Laughing.... when I have a GOOD idea (come on, it happens) I always say "It HURTS to be this smart".

[Sparko]

$cirisme and Dee Dee both said I was right once.