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Originally posted by JimL View PostAgain, evolution is what it is, but that god did it is simply your desired belief. I'm sure that if a god existed and wanted us to know with certainty of his/her/its existence, then with certainty we'd know. Don't you think!Last edited by seer; 09-06-2019, 10:22 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAgain, evolution is what it is, but that god did it is simply your desired belief. I'm sure that if a god existed and wanted us to know with certainty of his/her/its existence, then with certainty we'd know. Don't you think!
Oh, and Jesus was definitely male.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd your desired belief is that unaided nature did it. That the laws of nature just happened to create the conditions for life, then just happened to created primitive life, then just happened to cause this primitive life evolve to complex life, then just happened to cause some of this life to be self-aware. And just happened to cause this conscious life to become morally aware - and here we magically are!
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou're confusing nature with magic. Magic/miracles is the fantasy realm of gods.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThere are millions of people around the world who are quite certain. God came down as a man, and walked the earth. I certainly am certain! And this vast body of certain believers has been going on for 2000 years!
Oh, and Jesus was definitely male.
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Originally posted by seer View PostSorry your position sound more like magic than all this being done by an Intelligence...
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIntelligence would suggest that god had to go about his creating according to the previously existing rules of nature, seer. Otherwise god could have just gone Puff, and spoke the universe into existence. Oh wait, that is what he did, no? He said let it be, and it was. Like magic!Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBetter go re-read them.
First let's see what Seer said:
I said man has an inherent nature to do bad (and good BTW) - no one would disagree with this.
No one would disagree, except for your god
Gen 7:5-6
5 And Noah did all that the Lord commanded him. 6 Noah was 600 years old when the floodwaters engulfed the earth
[5- Noah does good. Not sure what verse 6 has to do with it]
Gen 9:21 When he drank some of the wine, he got drunk and uncovered himself inside his tent.
[Noah does bad]
How does that disagree with what Seer said that man has an inherent nature to do bad (and good?)
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell of course, it was a patriarchal society. Interesting how it was pretty much an all male club! Don't ya think!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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