Children of US service members born abroad no longer automatically citizens

[KingsGambit]

Trump has said he wants to end birthright citizenship, and indeed, he appears to actually be pursuing that aim now.


https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...R4f8E6D0Tu1bFY

[Cow Poke]

[swear word]

[KingsGambit]

Any chance this has something to do with his longtime feud with John McCain, you all think?

[DesertBerean]

Here's a clarification I found. I'll have to hunt down the article in a minute...

USCIS issued a clarification to the rule later Wednesday, explaining that the new rule would only affect three categories of people: Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members; children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child's birth; and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements.

Ha, here: https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...rseas-will-not

[firstfloor]

No doubt, it will be easier to go through naturalisation proceedings if the child is white.

[mikewhitney]

The citizenship to that of the father (wherever the father may be living) has been status conferred through common law. So, the removal of this right of citizenship may not be an option readily done by Congress, even less by an act of the President.

I can't tell what the Child Citizenship Act of 2000 (Immigration and Nationality Act Sections 320 and 322) offers, beyond just a reaffirmation of the common law. If memory serves, the child who doesn't return to abide in the United States but has children, those children would not have automatic citizenship.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...0-322-INA.html

Maybe the code seeks to affirm and document the automatic citizenship.

[mikewhitney]

Here's a clarification I found. I'll have to hunt down the article in a minute...

USCIS issued a clarification to the rule later Wednesday, explaining that the new rule would only affect three categories of people: Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members; children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child's birth; and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements.

Ha, here: https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...rseas-will-not

Ah. Things make more sense now.

[KingsGambit]

Is this a clarification of intended scope or actually in the text?

[mikewhitney]

Is this a clarification of intended scope or actually in the text?

Looking at the Kopan link, it seems like the Business Insider misinterpreted the decision.

[Sparko]

What Desert Berean said. It doesn't affect Birthright citizenship. It would affect naturalized US citizens living abroad who do not have any recent US residency and then have children. Those children could still become US citizens but would have to fill out additional paperwork and establish residency of their own.

I was born in Germany to a father who was in the Army and my mother who was a German citizen. I actually had dual citizenship until I turned 18, then I had to "choose" USA or Germany. I chose USA. I hear now they don't even make you choose and you can keep dual citizenship.

Yeah this news went around like a wildfire yesterday, with the MSM making a mountain out of a molehill.

I have to give some props to CNN who actually made an effort to be accurate and clarify it somewhat:

The rule appears to primarily affect the children of naturalized US citizens serving in the armed forces who have not lived in the US for a required period of time, a relatively small number -- estimated to be approximately 100 annually, according to a Defense Department official.
It does not impact anyone born in the United States.
US citizenship can be acquired a few ways, including being born in the country. Children born abroad can acquire citizenship through their US citizen parents either at birth or before the age of 18.

While the latest policy guidance doesn't make anyone ineligible for citizenship, it appears to narrow how children abroad can gain citizenship. ...Acting USCIS Director Ken Cuccinelli said on Twitter that the new policy "does NOT impact birthright citizenship."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/polit...ule/index.html

Although it does seem to add more paperwork to every US citizen who has children born overseas.

[Mountain Man]

No doubt, it will be easier to go through naturalisation proceedings if the child is white.

Is that your hope?

[Bill the Cat]

No doubt, it will be easier to go through naturalisation proceedings if the child is white.

Racist.

[Bill the Cat]

Is that your hope?

I am frequently amazed at the lack of self-awareness of our lefties here. The very thing they accuse us of are their defining qualities...

[One Bad Pig]

I am frequently amazed at the lack of self-awareness of our lefties here. The very thing they accuse us of are their defining qualities...

Obvious trolling is obvious.