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Trump impeachment probe began before Mueller even submitted report
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, there's more...
Impeachment chaos: Pols can’t agree on whether or not they’ve launched process to oust Trump
House Democrats have used the phrase “constitutional crisis” to describe Donald Trump's presidency -- but it turns out they may be creating one of their own.
The House Judiciary Committee leadership is currently at odds over the essential question of whether or not an impeachment investigation is underway. Republicans are pointing to precedent and congressional rules in arguing that traditionally first the House should approve such a move -- which has not yet happened. Yet some Democrats claim the Constitution says otherwise in arguing they've already launched the impeachment process.
So have they or haven't they?
There is no clear answer. The confusion underscores the division inside Congress over every aspect of this explosive political step, which Speaker Nancy Pelosi had urged against for months.
Yet despite Pelosi's repeated warnings, Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., told CNN last week that “formal impeachment proceedings” are underway.
Not so, said Rep. Doug Collins of Georgia, the committee's ranking Republican.
“House precedent requires the full House approve a resolution authorizing the Judiciary Committee to begin an impeachment inquiry,” he wrote in a Sunday op-ed for the Los Angeles Times. “Otherwise, any Judiciary chairman could charge into an impeachment inquiry with only limited, partisan support.”
The confusion over what is actually happening is not limited to partisan squabbles, as Democrats appear to be at odds as well......
So, is there an impeachment under way, or not?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThey just can't seem to be honest about it. Or, maybe they're just too stupid or that much in disarray to know.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostPelosi is desperately trying to hold it back because she knows what damage it can potentially do to the Democrat party.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostShe's been holding back because she knows how serious such a charge is, how divisive it can be, and how dangerous it would be to the country should the corrupt majority Senate aquit the criminal President. She is making sure that every i is dotted and every t is crossed giving the corrupt Moscow Mitch and his majority corrupt Senate no leeway but to convict.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBecause Mueller's nothing burger report didn't have enough crossed T's and dotted I's, right?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI believe they made it clear that there was in investigation underway, that doesn't mean a formal impeachment inquiry was filed.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIf you'd pay more attention you'd be more aware. An investigation, the gathering of evidence, is not the same as an impeachment inquiry and trial.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostFor what?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIf you'd pay more attention you'd be more aware. An investigation, the gathering of evidence, is not the same as an impeachment inquiry and trial.
Formal investigation IS a part of impeachment - and no, you (general) don't get to go around snooping because you just want to - there has to be cause and the prosecution doesn't begin until the investigative report is in."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostShe's been holding back because she knows how serious such a charge is, how divisive it can be, and how dangerous it would be to the country should the corrupt majority Senate aquit the criminal President. She is making sure that every i is dotted and every t is crossed giving the corrupt Moscow Mitch and his majority corrupt Senate no leeway but to convict."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNope, believe me there is plenty enough in the report in a normal case to convict, but not enough when you have a corrupt and biased jury in the Senate, with a corrupt majority leader who will do their best to spin, i.e. to lie, to the ultimate jury, which is the American people."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNot according to Nadler.
Formal investigation IS a part of impeachment - and no, you (general) don't get to go around snooping because you just want to - there has to be cause and the prosecution doesn't begin until the investigative report is in.
As for cause, folks would be wise to read the 2019.03.04 documents.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Finished reading it?
Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNo, there isn't. Couldn't even make a recommendation on indictment. It's a $30 million roll of TP."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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