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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    It can quite often become a pissing contest for who either struggles the most or has sinned the "biggest". Many see talking about their sin as glorifying their sin. It's a rather difficult thing to adequately discuss without keeping it in the proper frame of mind.
    Yeah, I often point out that, when I was younger, it seemed we would hear testimonies of people who had lived a life of crime, including imprisonment for same, and they would tend to go on and on about how bad they were --- then they got saved. It was like - the badder they were, the better their salvation was. I live it when somebody is gloriously saved, but let's hear about what Christ has done in your life AFTER Salvation, not just your wickedness before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I think a more appropriate setting might be something like a men's Bible study.
    The confession / repentance needs to be in the same circle where the offense was committed. If I sinned against the congregation - that's where I need to confess. If I sinned against a brother, it's between me and him. A men's Bible study would be a good place to confess general failings and seek encouragement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yeah, I often point out that, when I was younger, it seemed we would hear testimonies of people who had lived a life of crime, including imprisonment for same, and they would tend to go on and on about how bad they were --- then they got saved. It was like - the badder they were, the better their salvation was. I live it when somebody is gloriously saved, but let's hear about what Christ has done in your life AFTER Salvation, not just your wickedness before!
    My favorite story about testimony time is this: "It was testamony time at Bible Church, and little Mary Ann, aged 11, showed she had been listening. She started out, "Long I have wondered in the valley of sin." (Not original to me; I read it somewhere that I can't remember.)

    I agree we need more emphasis of after salvation stories and less before salvation. (Could we actually call these before salvation stories that get excessively bad and detailed, "Christian porn?")
    "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    One principle I have read and think I more or less agree with is the number of people you disclose your sin to should depend on how many people were affected/sinned against. So if somebody stole some money from a church offering, it might be appropriate to tell the entire church. Generally speaking, sexual sins aren't usually going to be covered here. I could think of exceptions, though. If an elder/pastor/etc. was caught in a prostitution sting that resulted in their picture being all over the news, it would be appropriate to confess before the entire church (and for them to step aside indefinitely) This would still be consistent with my principle because a sin that became this public would bring shame upon the entire congregation.
    I agree with that. If I sinned against someone, I should repent, confess it to him and God, and ask him for forgiveness. One needs to ask for God's forgiveness as well. If the pastor sinned against the entire congregation, then he should confess it to the entire congregation. I don't think that a pastor should confess every single sin he did in his life to the entire congregation. One does not need to confess to everyone all of the sins that he or she has ever committed in life in order to avoid a holier-than-thou attitude.
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